Do I have to give my neighbor a 30 day notice to move something he has put on my farm

[Timm250]

He actually also lost 3-4 acres of his original property. That was the part that had the building that was across the line.

 

[Timm250]

Dont know what PVA is, but the tax office will know who owns it.

The PVA what the tax office here is called.

Property Valuation Administration.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

The PVA what the tax office here is called.

Property Valuation Administration.

So how did they not know? Seems like a weird case all around.

 

[Timm250]

The guy who sued him is probably the richest person in Hopkins county.

He owns something like 15-20,000 acres of land in the area.

He made his money in the 70's from coal.

I'm sure this had something to do with the ruling.

 

[Timm250]

If I remember correctly the judgement for damages was in the area of $60,000.

They actually put a lien on everything he owned until it was paid.

He took another loan on the original property to pay it.

 

[the old grind]

You guys all need to do some reading on the topic: "Adverse Possession" - It will be enlightening.

AP has been mentioned at least twice. I'm not familiar with rules in other Midwestern states, but in Michigan there is absolutely no such thing. I bought my property just after a neighbor had surveyed and sued PO for adverse possession, or at least clarify a 30' strip of adjoining property. Judgement of the court was that a house built in the '40s was 10' onto my property, and that any and all mods or replacements (roof, windows) would be done only with the approval of the PO or later myself. 30' of their lot, and a half acre asparagus patch were also actually mine vs his. In our state, surveys are as solid as Oosik's basaltic bedrock.

Our problem never really existed once we met. A roughly equal amount of my 'presumed property' (and the West 650' of pond shore) was actually his. Within minutes of meeting we'd walked, talked, and agreed to a reasonable redo of lines that had been mistakenly thought 'true'. We had the lines re-surveyed to our hand-placed markers. (He declined my offer to pay half of the new survey) Our legal boundaries now match the tree lines long thought to be accurate, but far from it. ~5/8 acre in total was 'traded'.

btw, I don't consider the OP to be a 'bad neighbor' by any means. For a neighbor to buy, then commercialize in absentia vs occupy doesn't fit my idea of being 'neighborly', and the container bit tips some balance with me. I think the OP is holding up very well to the scrutiny of us dingbats weirdos, and other oddballs that always think our advice is the most sound. Being the oddest, weirdest, dingbat following this I ought to know. I applaud the steps taken so far. No touch offender's stuff before zoning/legality of use is checked and lawyer is contacted.

 

[Sodo]

This actually happened to a guy that I know.

There was a piece of land that joined his property. He went to the county PVA to find out who was the owner. They told him it was owned by a coal company.
He contacted the company to buy the land & they said they didn't know they owned it but they had no interest in it.
The company agreed to sign a quit claim to the property & they did. At that point the PVA transferred the deed to him.
Over the next 12 years or so he logged the property, cleared it & built a 40x60 shop on it. He also built another building on his original property.
All the while another property owner watched him doing this & even visiting him never mentioning that he believed he owned the same property.
The short of it is the 2nd property owner sued him taking the property he had improved, forced him to pay all of his attorneys fees & pay 3x the value of the timber & 3x damages for clearing the land.
IMO the entire thing was messed up from the beginning.
I tried to attach the case summary file but it doesn't work.
You can find it if you Google Peyton vs. Stevens Hopkins County KY.

>>Just one excerpt from the Peyton vs. Stevens Hopkins County KY lawsuit<<

"When Stevens originally became aware of the property it was described in the PVA office as containing 5 (five) acres.
In 2004 when the deed was prepared it increased from 5 (five) acres to 20 (twenty) acres.
In 2010 when the 'possession survey" was performed it increased to 34.2 (thirty-four and two tenths) acres."

Kinda looks like this fella "Stevens" started playing with fire...

 

[Timm250]

>>Just one excerpt from the Peyton vs. Stevens Hopkins County KY lawsuit<<

"When Stevens originally became aware of the property it was described in the PVA office as containing 5 (five) acres.
In 2004 when the deed was prepared it increased from 5 (five) acres to 20 (twenty) acres.
In 2010 when the 'possession survey" was performed it increased to 34.2 (thirty-four and two tenths) acres."

Kinda looks like this fella "Stevens" started playing with fire...

That's why I said it was messed up from the beginning.

Also it's not unusual in this area for the acreage called out on the deed to be way off.

The land is metes & bounds surveys that were done as much as 100 years ago & it has been transferred with the same legal description without a survey.

Mistakes are made in the legal descriptions when the deed transfers.

Also new deeds are created when pieces of land were sold or given to family members. I know of a couple that the legal descriptions read all land on the West side of the road that was once a part of property owned by Mr. Brown or whatever.

 

[Diggin It]

Dont know what PVA is, but the tax office will know who owns it.

Property Valuation Administrator. They ARE the tax office.

 

[Jstpssng]

Dont know what PVA is, but the tax office will know who owns it.

Not really, all that they do is collect taxes. This was actually covered in the case mentioned; at the bottom of page 8.

STEVENS (RICKY) VS. PEYTON (GARY) :: 217 :: Kentucky Court of Appeals Decisions :: Kentucky Case Law :: Kentucky Law :: US Law :: Justia

The Registry of Deeds (or whatever it's called in your state) is where you go to find legal documents, although the tax assessor is the easiest place to find the owner's name, as well as the deed book and page #.
The guy never had a clear title; he merely had a deed from the coal company relinquishing any rights to the land, after first stating that they had no record of ownership.
For the right price I'd sell any rights and interest that I hold in your land; I'd get a pocketful of cash while the buyer wouldn't have any more than what he has now.