Approved $2000 *minimum* repair bill today :(

[Sawyer Rob]

I took out a ring and pinion on a tractor one time, removed the parts myself and headed to the dealer.

The owner of the dealership was an older guy that had definitely been there done that! He took one look at the parts and said "oooohhh, you been using your tractor for a bull dozer, have you?"

He was exactly right! Pulling/pushing out stumps ect. is a good way to break things in your tractor!!

SR

 

[4570Man]

It’s a good way to damage a loader but isn’t pulling on a chain from the drawbar what a tractor was built to do?

 

[JWR]

It痴 a good way to damage a loader but isn稚 pulling on a chain from the drawbar what a tractor was built to do?

Exactly. See MossRoad comment in post #24. No one should fear damage to the gears and or rear-end of a tractor based on attempts to pull anything (aside from on pavement.). It was designed to do exactly that -- pull things. There is no doubt some catastrophic unreported incident in the history of that tractor chipped or cracked a gear tooth or two. That or a manufacturing defect.

No manufacturer goes to the expense or time of magnafluxing every gear in the drive train of a tractor. You could not afford a tractor if they did that level of testing. So the teeth could very well have been weak when brand new.

If bought used (and it was) ... "we pays our money and takes our chances." Chalk it up to luck and experience.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

No mfg. sells a small tractor to be weighted and then used for MAX pulls over and over trying to pull/push out stumps!

Even the big 4wd tractors are not designed for that, and when you are buying a tractor to pull pans, they option the tractor out with over size drive lines just for that reason...

Pull things, yes.....pull at MAX pull, much of the time, NO!

SR

 

[fried1765]

Yeah, but you are young and fast and the rest of us are old and slow...I'm 76 and once I get down on the ground I have to hunt for a way to get back up.

So...ooooo true!
Daxn it!

 

[JWR]

Sawyer Rob I respectfully disagree with post #34. " Max Pull " is determined by the traction available between the tires and the surface. I believe all common name-brand tractors are made to pull that amount of load on a day-in-day-out basis with no sweat. Rated rpm, typical weights with filled tires and or wheel weights they sold you, etc. Faster wear if you do that all the time ? Yes, of course. That's why higher hours tractors are expected to show wear in a hundred places including the gearing. And none of us here are talking about revving up the engine and popping the clutch, if this tractor under discussion even has a clutch.

And they (mfrs.) could not care less what it is your are trying to pull, stumps or otherwise.

Some folks are harder on their machines than others and it shows when you see their machinery... Some are extremely cautious to the point of babying the machines... And everywhere in between.

You cannot find a dealer or manufacturer who will advise against pulling (what ever the machine is rated to handle and capable of pulling ) on a regular basis. To do so would be strong negative criticism of the tractor.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Disagreeing is fine, but there's a lot of folks fixing their tractors doing what YOU say they should be able to do.

I was one of them! AND I've seen a LOT more of them.....some right here on this site... Each time guys on here want to blame the previous owner, blame a defective gear or ?, NONE wanting to admit that tractors are NOT bulldozers or industrial rated land clearing equipment!

Now, about the mfg'ers specing their tractors with heavier drive lines for heavy pulling, care to weigh in on that?? I can tell you why they do it...

BTW, it's not hard to find a dealer around here that will advise you to NOT pull stumps with your nice new tractor!

SR

 

[4570Man]

I don’t think anyone here claims tractors are dozers. The front end loaders certainly aren’t dozers. But pulling on a chain at a continuous pull not jerking isn’t abuse. Maybe a few tractors have broken doing that but it’s not a daily occasion. Bringing your tractor to it’s knees every 5 minutes pulling a scraper is a completely different duty cycle than a tough pull every now and then. So not limited to stumps should you not chain up to a big log that you probably can’t pull? If you’re pulling a small log that gets hung on a tree would shattering the tractor ring gear be acceptable? If you got your truck stuck and you only have a 30 hp tractor that probably can’t pull it should you not even try?

 

[JWR]

Disagreeing is fine, but there's a lot of folks fixing their tractors doing what YOU say they should be able to do.

...

Now, about the mfg'ers specing their tractors with heavier drive lines for heavy pulling, care to weigh in on that?? ...

SR

Yes, I guess I will. I'll weigh in by first asking a question to make sure I understand: What do you mean by "...option the tractor out with over size drive lines?" (or "spec'ing their tractors with heavier drive lines for heavy pulling," I assume you meant the same thing with both phrases.)

 

[crazyal]

It's not the pulling it's the chain getting a little loose and that jerk when you drive forward that really does a number on things. It's easy to say it's just a little tug. Even if it doesn't go boom right then you still could have done damage and later in life you (or the next owner) might finish it off.