Just want a tractor

[Ccdteacher]

Have it narrowed down to a Kioti DK 4210sehb, Massey 1742, and LS XR4145H, LS may be cost prohibitive.

 

[searcyfarms]

if you dont have deep mud no need for AG, with 4wd it will be more than good for loader work in gravel/dry dirt, it will be easier on yard if you do any landscaping and turning in pasture, unless you have tons of snow i wouldnt think it would make much difference unless DEEP mud under snow no frozen ground, if things get hard frozen might have to use chains anyway so wont matter which tire you have, i have been very happy with my SCUT and CUT with R4 tires

oh fun the massey is in play woot woot next to draw straws lol are you looking at cabbed tractors, i dont knwo those model numbers that well

 

[Ccdteacher]

No cab, can稚 afford although it would be nice. Is that 努oot woot good or bad for Massey. It happens to be my wife痴 favorites

 

[Nacademus]

I purchased my Massey from Maibach Tractor in Creston, Ohio. It was a 75 mile ride for me but worth it. I got my Massey for a better price than I was quoted by a closer dealer. I also got the better model for less, too. It pays to visit multiple dealers in different counties.

I am not tax exempt. It definitely pays to choose the county you buy your tractor in. Haggle and find lowest sales tax if you can.

 

[searcyfarms]

i have heard nice things about the massey on here

 

[searcyfarms]

on notables i would extend are from the guys here i have heard the pedals that suspend on the massy are tall for a foot to push resting on the floor pan so your wife might not like that having to hang her leg in the air to push pedals vs the floor pan pedals on the kioti, i have heard the guys say they like the extendable 3 point arms like the massey has didnt see that on the kioti, so go through and check the boxes and see what best suits you and your wife

 

[Ccdteacher]

on notables i would extend are from the guys here i have heard the pedals that suspend on the massy are tall for a foot to push resting on the floor pan so your wife might not like that having to hang her leg in the air to push pedals vs the floor pan pedals on the kioti, i have heard the guys say they like the extendable 3 point arms like the massey has didnt see that on the kioti, so go through and check the boxes and see what best suits you and your wife

Thank you for the information on the tires and pedals. My wife is reading these post with me. At this point I do not believe that I can go wrong with either tractor (Massey or Kioti). I am going to call the dealer that Nacademous recommended in the morning.

 

[kenmac]

Tier 4 is here to stay, get used to it or Tier 5, Tier 6 etc...........kind of like all the 6.0 ford whiners, the only thing i have put in my 6.0 that i havent had to put on any other diesel that i have owned is an egr valve, egr cooler. EVERY diesel i have owned at some point or another needed an injector, head gasket, fuel pump, blah blah blah...........

you fix a 6.0 right and it will last you for longer than the body will last. Does it need more injectors than some yea maybe but do you take care of it like you should? Did a 282 IH eat head gaskets ? Did a 263 burn valves? you can pick anything apart if you want. Did a detroit leak oil ?

I will keep my tier 4 and my older NON tier 4 and be happy with all - i have bought new/old over the years for various reasons, were not here to question ones motives or reasons for buying/choosing what they want just to support what we can and share in those experiences, we control NO ONE - just be happy for all and enjoy it all

tier 4,5 etc may be here to stay, but until they can get it right. I ain't buying. There are many almost new Kubota M5 tractors near me with very low hours already for sale.

Yes, you can fix a ford 60 to last. For enough money
No way to fix these screwed up DEF, DPF tractors

 

[kenmac]

strange dealers in other areas of the country act like they don't care if they make a sale,or not.

Called local dealer today needing a 3pt lift part. she said, I don't have one in stock but I'll see if any Kubota dealer in the area has one. She looked and said not one close and she could order me one. Gave me the price.
I said is that the best you can do. She said well, I'll sell it to you for xxx which was a lower price

 

[kenmac]

you'll probably be much happier if you purchase a good low hr used non emissions tractor.
Emission issues is the reason I bought a 2013 low hour MX5100 4wd tractor

 

[Ccdteacher]

you'll probably be much happier if you purchase a good low hr used non emissions tractor.
Emission issues is the reason I bought a 2013 low hour MX5100 4wd tractor

Problem is getting financing for used tractor in our area. Talked to three banks and interest rates were through the roof.
One of the appealing features of the Mahindra, which for reasons explained in earlier post, I will not buy and the new Massey is that they do not use a regen system. It is more of an automobile catalytic converter system

 

[kenmac]

well, I usually don't finance, so I never thought about financing. I paid 24K for my 2013 mx5100 with 280 hrs.
Yes, I'm aware of the massey and mahindra not using regen up to xxx hp . I think Branson tractors use something else as well.
Not sure why others can't use another system like these companies do.

Not sure where HP range begins for the regen ,DPF on massey and mahindra

I would buy one of these than buy one with DPF

 

[bridge4]

well, I usually don't finance, so I never thought about financing. I paid 24K for my 2013 mx5100 with 280 hrs.
Yes, I'm aware of the massey and mahindra not using regen up to xxx hp . I think Branson tractors use something else as well.
Not sure why others can't use another system like these companies do.

Not sure where HP range begins for the regen ,DPF on massey and mahindra

I would buy one of these than buy one with DPF

I think the Mahindra/catalytic approach just runs hotter constantly, vs the DPF ones that only run super hot sometimes. It's like supercharging vs turbo...pro's and con's to both and everyone has preference.

 

[searcyfarms]

i havent had any issues with mine yet - i only have one tractor with it - will see how it goes

say what you want but at some point things dont last forever and we will all have to move to the new systems no matter what type they are

 

[ericm979]

A DOC like Mahindra and some Masseys use is different from the DPF on most tractors. Rather than burning trapped soot in the filter, it uses a chemical catalyst to help burn the soot. That can be done at a lower temperature than the typical DPF regen cycle where the soot trapped in the filter is burned.

Branson uses a combo DOC/DPF with continual low temp regen on the DPF part. It's yet another way to meet the emissions standards.

Most of these systems are pretty reliable. Even the regen ones often don't intrude on operation much if at all. Often if the regen happens while you're working the tractor hard you won't notice other than seeing a light on the dash.

Tier 4 standards for tractors under 75 hp are less strict than for pickups and semis. There's no DEF and EGR is generally not used (except for some DOC systems). So the under 75hp tractors don't have the kind of problems that some of those vehicle have.

 

[Ccdteacher]

I purchased my Massey from Maibach Tractor in Creston, Ohio. It was a 75 mile ride for me but worth it. I got my Massey for a better price than I was quoted by a closer dealer. I also got the better model for less, too. It pays to visit multiple dealers in different counties.

I am not tax exempt. It definitely pays to choose the county you buy your tractor in. Haggle and find lowest sales tax if you can.

I called Maibach as recommended yesterday. After 3 hours the owner came back with the terms and cost that we were looking for. As was your case we ended up with a 2019 vs the 2018 for less. He did not have the exact tractor on his lot. Found a dealer who had one and it will be shipped to his dealership. It was two hours from our house but worth it. The dealer was the best my wife and I dealt with throughout this process.

We ended up with the MF1740M. The new models do not have the regen system which was a plus form me. We take delivery in about 1.5 weeks

 

[searcyfarms]

I called Maibach as recommended yesterday. After 3 hours the owner came back with the terms and cost that we were looking for. As was your case we ended up with a 2019 vs the 2018 for less. He did not have the exact tractor on his lot. Found a dealer who had one and it will be shipped to his dealership. It was two hours from our house but worth it. The dealer was the best my wife and I dealt with throughout this process.

We ended up with the MF1740M. The new models do not have the regen system which was a plus form me. We take delivery in about 1.5 weeks

YAY thats GREAT NEWS, so glad you found a place you and your wife were looking for as well as a unit to fit your needs and desires. Be sure to post pictures!!!

 

[Ccdteacher]

YAY thats GREAT NEWS, so glad you found a place you and your wife were looking for as well as a unit to fit your needs and desires. Be sure to post pictures!!!

Thank you. We are supposed to take delivery in a week and a half. If I can figure it out I will post a picture.

Thanks for your help and advice. I知 sure I will have many more questions as time passes.

 

[Ccdteacher]

Tractor was delivered this morning. Unfortunately I will be out of time for the next week so my wife will be breaking it in. Only question I have right now it that some of the controls seem a little stiff. Will they loosen up over time?

 

[Imold]

Congrats! Nice looking tractor wish I could of justified buying one like that, maybe in 3-4 years being my neighbor out at my other property offered to sell me the 40 acres next to my 12.7 acres in 3-4 years so that will give me a reason to upgrade.
I took delivery of my new MF GC1705 last week, Green and Orange didn’t seem to interested in answering all my newbie questions so I went to the MF dealer about a hour away and the salesman had no problems answering my questions plus he asked me questions like what size property I had what was the main use for the tractor and what else I was going to us it for, he spent a lot of time with me on this deal, I went back 3 times before I bought it and in the meantime I tried going back to a couple other dealers but got the feeling I was wasting their time again although I did find out from the Orange dealer that all the emissions stuff basically starts at 26 hp on up.



Jim.