2019 L6060 Regens

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Hilbilly

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I was reading another thread where a person was complaining about the regen frequency of his YT tractor and based on the comments I seen I may be having an issue with mine. When I first got it I closely monitored the DPF filter gauge and initially thought it was great. At 10 hours the DPF was at 10% and I was doing a lot of light duty low rpm work and idling. Then it started to go up faster and faster, even though I was running the tractor at higher rpms. Still light duty stuff though. At 23 hrs it did its first regen and it took about 10 mins. The Intellipanel called for about 1700 rpm during that regen. I just had my second regen at 38 hrs and the IP called for 2300rpm. It took about 10 mins again. Is this normal compared to what others are experiencing?

I have yet to run the tractor at full PTO rpm and I have not yet worked it hard.
 
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I have had my L6060 for 6 months and run it hard mowing because to get the PTO To 540 rpm the engine runs at about 90%. First regeneration at 22 hours and second regeneration at 43 hours.
 
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Are these DEF tractors?
 
   / 2019 L6060 Regens #4  
No, The L6060 does not use DEF. I am curious why you ask. The use of DEF and Regeneration are two separate processes.
 
   / 2019 L6060 Regens #5  
There is a computer chip/circuit monitoring DPF congestion. When the DPF ceramic matrix is fully loaded with soot, according to the computer programing, it notifies you to regenerate statically if you have been operating at relatively low rpms. So there is no set time between regeneration cycles. Low air temperature during operation, which lowers DPF temperature, can decrease time between regenerations.

During your first regeneration the DPF was new. During your second regeneration there was ambient soot in the DPF. I think you are normal but bears watching.

My three cylinder L3560 requires 2,200 engine rpms during driveway regenerations. In warm Florida regenerations are pretty regular at 50 to 60 engine hours. I do a lot of low rpm, stop-and-go, engine-on/engine-off woods work so about 65% of my regenerations are static in the driveway. My dynamic regenerations primarily occur when bush hogging or disc harrowing.

The L3560 engine is at 1,400 engine hours and the DPF/regeneration has been a non-issue.
 
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Sounds right to me.......
 
   / 2019 L6060 Regens #7  
Pushing 360ish hours on my L4060. I'm getting 20, maybe 25-30 hours between regens. From what I hear that's about normal for the 60 series Grands. Low RPMs & not working them hard shortens the intervals. Mowing & other activities that load the engine hard & make it produce lots of heat tend to make regens occur less frequently. I do a mix of a fair bit of mowing & puttering utility tasks.
 
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And if I'm mowing I run the machine at full throttle, which is about 560pto. I often don't even notice when it regens there. It's just a light flashing at that point. If I'm just puttering ir almost finished with a job I'll suppress the regen if I notice things then let it go next time I run it. It's less of an issue than I was expecting when I got it though.
 
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I know a lot of people think it's always cold in Canada but it does get hot here too. Since I bought the tractor the ambient temps have been around 80 to 90 degrees F. So if I only get 15 hrs between regents at that temp what will it be like when the temps drop to 0 degrees F.

I really don't have any concerns with the regen process. Just curious to see what others are expiencing. I will just keep using it as required and keep an eye on it. So far I love this tractor.
 
   / 2019 L6060 Regens #10  
I was reading another thread where a person was complaining about the regen frequency of his YT tractor and based on the comments I seen I may be having an issue with mine. When I first got it I closely monitored the DPF filter gauge and initially thought it was great. At 10 hours the DPF was at 10% and I was doing a lot of light duty low rpm work and idling. Then it started to go up faster and faster, even though I was running the tractor at higher rpms. Still light duty stuff though. At 23 hrs it did its first regen and it took about 10 mins. The Intellipanel called for about 1700 rpm during that regen. I just had my second regen at 38 hrs and the IP called for 2300rpm. It took about 10 mins again. Is this normal compared to what others are experiencing?

I have yet to run the tractor at full PTO rpm and I have not yet worked it hard.

Regeneration of my L6060 is seamless. I do not even know that it has happened unless I check the bar graph.

Pushing 190 hours now, and I have no idea how many times it has regenerated.

SDT
 
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I know a lot of people think it's always cold in Canada but it does get hot here too. Since I bought the tractor the ambient temps have been around 80 to 90 degrees F. So if I only get 15 hrs between regents at that temp what will it be like when the temps drop to 0 degrees F.

I really don't have any concerns with the regen process. Just curious to see what others are expiencing. I will just keep using it as required and keep an eye on it. So far I love this tractor.
I'm in Colorado. Not Canada cold but I do a bit of plowing in the negatives (Freedom units). I havent noticed any real difference between the winter or pushing triple diget summers regen wise.
 
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I have a M7060 and had (4) regens so far. I have not run the tractor hard as I was still under the 50 hour break in.
1st 17 hours
2nd 30.5 hours
3rd 44.3 hours
4th 57 hours
 
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#13  
Thanks guys.

Looks like mine is acting normal. I also found another thread where this was brought up and lots of guys are getting 12 to 13 hrs between regens.
 
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Funny thing just happened. I was hauling bucket loads of gravel down my driveway to do some minor work on one spot and noticed the soot level went from 1% at the beginning to 6% close to the end. During that time I was running down in high range, rabbit and back up in high range turtle, trying not to work the tractor too hard yet. Still only has 40 hrs on it and the driveway is quite steep. Average grade between the gravel pile and the work area is about 10% with a few spots that are about 15%. The distance from tgrabel pile to work area is about 3/4 mile. So on the last trip up the driveway I ran in high range, rabbit at 2000rpm and watched the soot level start at 7% then drop to 6% when I got to the top.

It's all a learning experience.
 
   / 2019 L6060 Regens #15  
Modern engines don't require a detailed break in. Work the snot out of it. Don't over heat it. It's a tractor.
 
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I don’t think my L6060 has done a regen at less than 25 hours but I rarely run less than 2000 rpm except at warmup. Seeing the DPF% go down under low is not uncommon - like dropping from 70% to 60% in 20 minutes of very high load. The M135GX I once had also dropped % under heavy load but the M7-171 that replaced it has never dropped. So don’t be surprised to see your DPF % drop as much as 10% without doing a regen.
 
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I was wondering, to those who have more regens for not using the tractors hard enough, if one of those additives made for DPFs could help those situations? And maybe prevent DPF clogging in the future.

I read on a German Branson forum, where a tractor owner had nice results with the CRC DPF Cleaner on his tractor.
 
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I have a M7060 and had (4) regens so far. I have not run the tractor hard as I was still under the 50 hour break in.
1st 17 hours
2nd 30.5 hours
3rd 44.3 hours
4th 57 hours

I have about 80 hours on my 7060 and I believe mine has had 6 regens. That's a combination of snowblowing, road grading, mowing, and misc. loader work.
I try to run at least 2000 rpm or pto rpm. Seems like a lot to me.
 
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I checked last night, I'm right at 37 hours and my regen screen shows 99%. So, my guess is this weekend I will do my 1st regen.
 
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Looks like this is all over the map. 17hrs to 37hrs between regens. From my vast experience so far (40hrs :) and what I've read here it appears that running the engine at high rpms does not seem to help much, if at all. But working the engine does. Makes sense but on the other hand with my older diesels they would smoke like crazy when they were worked hard and no smoke when they were just cruising.

My tractor will not likely experience much hard work during it's life. Mostly loader work, some minor grass mowing, a little light brush cutting, post hole auger work, box blading the driveway and using the snowblower. The blower might work the engine some but only if I use it on the 3PTH where I can use all of the hp. If I use the blower on the FEL with the rear hydraulic power pack the tractor will not likely experience much load. The hydraulic motor is only rated for 25hp and will go into relief if it gets loaded too much. The only things that will work the tractor hard is plowing snow when going uphill or running up the driveway in high range, rabbit. I guess my tractor will go through a lot of regens. Glad its not a big deal and only takes about 10 mins (well so far anyways).
 

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