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   / AR Rifles.. #692  
In the ‘80s they would calculate it after pumping... except that often it didn’t happen unless you reminded them. No doubt the difference went into the attendant’s pocket.

I'm not proud to say this, but in the 80's on Friday nights in a small rural coal community in Pennsylvania during the summer months, generally the "cash discount" at the Exxon station went into a fund for late Friday night when a white van with Jersey plates would always show up about 1 in the morning, and the driver would let you have a pick of anything in the van for free for a free tank of gas. At least that's what Steve and Kerry told me (Steve had a great 72 Monte Carlo and Kerry had a great 69 Camaro, and I was stuck with the 76 Cutlas Salon coupe). I never thought much of it back then, but what I'd give to have it now with the 8 track tape player LOL. Park that car facing up hill and you could kill yourself if you weren't careful with the doors swinging shut.

Still remember working there Christmas eve when it was cold wearing my dads air force parka. Had tunnel vision with the hood, and was walking across the island and couldn't see a dang car and got knocked on my butt. Also remember the time when I told the boss that someone took a dump in the bathroom but on the floor and didn't use the toilet. I found out that picking up crap off the floor was in my job description.
 
   / AR Rifles.. #693  
The L model is 8.9" long, weighs 21.8 lbs and is a 30 caliber rated can.

I'd sincerely suggest looking at the K model Dragoneggs requirements if you're looking at Dead Air for a dedicated .223 can.

The K model is 5.4" long and comes in at 12.8 oz (and is still rated for 30 caliber).



ANYIME I have boys shooting a AR or other centerfire supersonic round using a suppressor, mandatory hearing protection is always used (mine was literally shot decades ago so I'm more careless shooting by myself at times without hearing protection, just being honest). For some reason, people think that 135 decibels is hearing safe, and you can read gun rag or blog writers writing a review informing you that if a supressor comes in at 139 decibles, it's hearing safe. News flash, it's not. That said, a supressor will get more sales if it's deemed "hearing safe" over a suppressor that is not "hearing safe".

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Generally speaking, if you can hear the bullet striking a "soft" target (such as a tree or wood) within 100 yards, it's pretty quiet IMO. Anything supersonic I genearlly don't hear the bullet striking.

This is kind of where hollywood has really misled people with suppressors in the movies. Other than using a .22LR subsonic with a suppressor, no centerfire suppressor is "hollywood quiet".

Now, the HUGE advantage IMO is when you're further away from someone using a suppressor on a supersonic centerfire round. World of difference IMO even 10' away from the shooter without hearing protection (no sound concussion at all IMO), let alone the huge difference if you were in a home 200 yards away.

Don’t think the k model was available when I purchased the L. Yes 30 caliber, but you can get an end cap for 223.

Nomad/Sandman Front Cap – DeadAirSilencers


I went with this so I can use it on multiple rifles I have. Even my favorite deer rifle 270 WSM.
 
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   / AR Rifles.. #694  
Did you come from the Midwest? Its all pop there, that's where I grew up.
In a couple of my circles of friends, the term 'pop' implies beer. As in having a couple pops. :D

Hm... My name tag said "applications engineer" for a lot of years.
Agreed the term 'application engineer' is loosely used and is commonly tagged on 'tech sales' people that interface with 'degreed' engineers.

Have you dealt with an engineer? I worked beside many over the years, most of them had no common sense...
I work with engineers myself on a daily basis. I agree with atsah.
I'm feeling a bit offended by these remarks. I hope I fall into the minority.
 
   / AR Rifles.. #695  
If you do fall into that minority, you are probably dangerously smart.

I have met alot of engineers and very few that had any sense. The ones that had common sense were among the smartest people I have every met.
 
   / AR Rifles.. #696  
I'm feeling a bit offended by these remarks. I hope I fall into the minority.

I work in the HVAC industry, and a lot of times I'm held to getting something an engineer specified for a speciffic job. The issue is a lot of times they just copy and paste stuff that they really don't know anything about.

I can tell you the worst thing you can probably do as a business owner is to hire an engineer for your HVAC needs because the contractor then becomes held to want the engineer wants (and generally everyone is scratching their heads confused and then another bid goes out to be "valued engineered":laughing: Also found out that if the homeowner is an engineer, price on the job should go up:laughing:

All that said, I did get my last company to hire an egnineer because he came highly reccomended by people I knew well. Great guy working with him, knew his stuff, and he'd strike you more as a well dressed dead head than anything else LOL
 
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   / AR Rifles.. #697  
went with this so I can use it on multiple rifles I have. Even my favorite deer rifle 270 WSM.

I agree. My first rifle can was a .30 caliber as well to use just as you noted.

I've just found that there is no one "perfect can". Since the question was pertaining to a dedicated .223 AR can, and that's the ONLY thing you want the can for, I'd just go short and light.
 
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   / AR Rifles.. #698  
Right, in general situations. But the gun control topic is not something where you're trying to be kind with the opposition and 'bring them into the fold'. They are opposition and they are coming for your rights, unwelcomely, so they should be treated as hostile and held to the highest standard to make sure whatever they push isn't based on bunk and spread misinformation to the lesser engaged folks. There's really no way someone actively pushing for gun control is going to be 'converted' by folks being kind and understanding of their lack of knowledge on the topic.

If I were talking to a person in general about firearms, such as if they were expressing interest in the sport/topic, then I would be all for your suggestion. Correct them gently and help them know the right terminology so they can interact with others who are more well-versed. That's when you want to be kind and help them along the path.

Sound words... when you are preaching to the choir. What you have to face and deal with now is that this younger generation doesn't care for guns, doesn't care about the 2nd amendment, and certainly doesn't care to "compromise" with you. They know their day will come, and you and I will be gone.
 
   / AR Rifles.. #700  
If you do fall into that minority, you are probably dangerously smart.

I have met alot of engineers and very few that had any sense. The ones that had common sense were among the smartest people I have every met.

I draw the line at book smart and field smart; the best of any professional has real field time in the "trenches".
 

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