Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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I think the forced power outages in California are making people think long and hard about EV. It's a glaring example of how ill-prepared our electrical grid is for any extra demand due to years of neglect, not to mention natural phenomenons.

EV tickle the feel good receptors in the brain for some...

The biggest problem with power companies is...profits goes to shareholders and not the infrastructure...

I'm a dyed in the wool capitalist but IMO public utilities and health insurance are two realms that should be socialized...i.e., NOT FOR PROFIT...
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #232  
The biggest problem with power companies is...profits goes to shareholders and not the infrastructure...

I'm a dyed in the wool capitalist but IMO public utilities and health insurance are two realms that should be socialized...i.e., NOT FOR PROFIT...

As a capitalist, you understand that without shareholders, there would be no capital for public utilities or Health Insurance companies to exist. The shareholders are keeping Tesla alive for now, they could also end up being the biggest losers...they could not do what they do without shareholders.
 
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In Europe things gets hard if you don't have EVs

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Wow! Changes are coming and faster than I ever expected. The blip from the article pasted below is kind of mind boggling of being rewarded by selling carbon credits. Hey cash keeps the doors open and people working.

"Fiat Chrysler has also made use of the option to pool fleets of high-emission autos with low- or zero-polluting cars, pairing up with Tesla Inc. in a deal that likely will involve paying the U.S. company several hundred million dollars."

The below story indicates Europe is concerned about air quality and breathing issues. Vehicles are just one factor but one of the current focuses in Europe.

Air Pollution Ages Your Lungs Faster, Increases Risk of COPD, Study Says | KTLA
 
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As a capitalist, you understand that without shareholders, there would be no capital for public utilities or Health Insurance companies to exist. The shareholders are keeping Tesla alive for now, they could also end up being the biggest losers...they could not do what they do without shareholders.

Established utility and insurance companies could exist fine without shareholders...as long as there is positive cash flow (created by demand)...just need management not shareholders public or private...

Not talking about start ups here...
 
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Gale... Have a little very astute cartoon for you....

How it play in the end... Why I won't have an electric vehicle, farm tractor or bicycle for that matter....
 

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   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #236  
Established utility and insurance companies could exist fine without shareholders...as long as there is positive cash flow (created by demand)...just need management not shareholders public or private...

Not talking about start ups here...

If the share holders pulled their capitol, the utilities and Health Insurance companies would crater.

A balance sheet is Assets=liabilities + owners equities. How do you reclaim the equity if it goes away? How could you procure credit if the liabilities of a company are already backed by their assets.

Share holders are the reason why corporations exist...
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #237  
Our power Utility has been government owned since forever. They know how to waste Trillions of Dollars in a million ways, like it wasn't their money.
 
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As a capitalist, you understand that without shareholders, there would be no capital for public utilities or Health Insurance companies to exist. The shareholders are keeping Tesla alive for now, they could also end up being the biggest losers...they could not do what they do without shareholders.

So how do a towns streets exist?
 
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Many don't and are in desperate need of repair as is all other aging infrastructure. We have built a lot of stuff and never thought of the cost of maintaining it, often a much higher cost, even considering inflation, to what the stuff cost to build in the first place.
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #240  
If the share holders pulled their capitol, the utilities and Health Insurance companies would crater.

A balance sheet is Assets=liabilities + owners equities. How do you reclaim the equity if it goes away? How could you procure credit if the liabilities of a company are already backed by their assets.

Share holders are the reason why corporations exist...

You're missing the point entirely...forget the typical corporation...I'm talking about a much different animal...
 
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