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+1 on that. I use Powerservice year around.
been there, did that with coagulated diesel fuel.
Diesel in winter
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+1 on that. I use Powerservice year around.
been there, did that with coagulated diesel fuel.
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".... You will only freeze up once and thereafter always be adding your own additive at every tanking, believe me."- PILOON
It happened to me twice. The first time was the first winter after MA mandated that all on road diesel be ULSD in 2006. A lot of heavy equipment machine operators, trucking services, and most school buses got gelled up with the first real cold snap. The second was this Spring after a Winter of non-use due to personal injury. It will not let it happen again if I can help it.
It happened to me twice. The first time was the first winter after MA mandated that all on road diesel be ULSD in 2006. A lot of heavy equipment machine operators, trucking services, and most school buses got gelled up with the first real cold snap. The second was this Spring after a Winter of non-use due to personal injury. It will not let it happen again if I can help it.
My dealer warned me of this when I bought mine years ago. They had a truck load of tractors delivered from Wisconsin mid winter, and they all had gelled fuel. He told me the horror stories of how hard it was to get the fuel systems cleared just to get them unloaded. I've used Power Service, but now use Howes Diesel Treat year round (double dose in winter).
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How often is the problem caused by biodiesel?
Biodiesel Myth #9 – Biodiesel Will Gel Up My Tank or My Engine | Triangle Biofuels Industries
With Bio....it seems you never know what your getting and what the cloud point will be.
Biodiesel Cloud Point and Cold Weather Issues – Farm Energy
Biodiesel Myth #9 – Biodiesel Will Gel Up My Tank or My Engine | Triangle Biofuels Industries
With Bio....it seems you never know what your getting and what the cloud point will be.
Biodiesel Cloud Point and Cold Weather Issues – Farm Energy
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ruff dog- Thanks for the links
A few of the local diesel users here way back I 2006/2007 switched to biodiesel fuels and had all kinds of problems associated with biodiesel "lifting" old tank crud and had problems with their fuel lines. I copied this from the internet:
"Another problem is biodiesel's behavior as a solvent. Though this property is helpful, it's kind of a double-edged sword. Some older diesel vehicles (such as cars made before 1992) may experience clogging with higher concentrations of biodiesel. Because of its ability to loosen deposits built up in the engine (which may be there from old diesel fuel), biodiesel can cause the fuel filter to become jammed with the newly freed deposits. Biodiesel manufacturers suggest changing the fuel pump shortly after switching to high-concentration biodiesel blends. Components within these older fuel systems may also become degraded. In addition to deposits within the fuel system, biodiesel also breaks down rubber components. Some parts in the older systems, such as fuel lines and fuel pump seals, may become broken down due to their rubber or rubber-like composition. This is usually remedied by replacing such components. Though many manufacturers have included biodiesel in their warranties, potential for problems could still exist. For more information on biodiesel and vehicle warranties, check out The Biodiesel Standard."- internet source.
A few of the local diesel users here way back I 2006/2007 switched to biodiesel fuels and had all kinds of problems associated with biodiesel "lifting" old tank crud and had problems with their fuel lines. I copied this from the internet:
"Another problem is biodiesel's behavior as a solvent. Though this property is helpful, it's kind of a double-edged sword. Some older diesel vehicles (such as cars made before 1992) may experience clogging with higher concentrations of biodiesel. Because of its ability to loosen deposits built up in the engine (which may be there from old diesel fuel), biodiesel can cause the fuel filter to become jammed with the newly freed deposits. Biodiesel manufacturers suggest changing the fuel pump shortly after switching to high-concentration biodiesel blends. Components within these older fuel systems may also become degraded. In addition to deposits within the fuel system, biodiesel also breaks down rubber components. Some parts in the older systems, such as fuel lines and fuel pump seals, may become broken down due to their rubber or rubber-like composition. This is usually remedied by replacing such components. Though many manufacturers have included biodiesel in their warranties, potential for problems could still exist. For more information on biodiesel and vehicle warranties, check out The Biodiesel Standard."- internet source.
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Quote---"Biodiesel manufacturers suggest changing the fuel pump shortly after switching "
Otherwise known as CYA. (cover your a--)
And at what price? fuel pumps (add labor) don't usually come cheap.
Where are the savings?
Best yet is use a well known fuel and an additive come cold weather.
Otherwise known as CYA. (cover your a--)
And at what price? fuel pumps (add labor) don't usually come cheap.
Where are the savings?
Best yet is use a well known fuel and an additive come cold weather.
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I'll add more to this trend.
I also heated with oil, come January and a low tank the heating oil would not flow even tho I used 1/2" copper.
I added a heated 'tracing line' to cure that problem but the oil dealer suggested that I switch to 'winter fuel' which he described as carosine (lamp oil) but at what price?
Never mind, no tractor fuel at my house will ever be untreated, that I promise you.
I also heated with oil, come January and a low tank the heating oil would not flow even tho I used 1/2" copper.
I added a heated 'tracing line' to cure that problem but the oil dealer suggested that I switch to 'winter fuel' which he described as carosine (lamp oil) but at what price?
Never mind, no tractor fuel at my house will ever be untreated, that I promise you.
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That's another good video from him. Although I wish he did a cloud point test to see when the fuel begins to cloud rather than just the one extreme test for gelling. It doesn't take much clouding to plug the fuel filters and stop the engine.
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I didn't hear what the mix ratio was that he used, The white bottle Power Serve does call for double the normal dose for that temperature.
Also, the 911 doesn't prevent gelling it is supposed to cut a channel thru the gelled fuel and lines and filter to get you started and back to a warm shop.
Also, the 911 doesn't prevent gelling it is supposed to cut a channel thru the gelled fuel and lines and filter to get you started and back to a warm shop.