Skidding Winches

   / Skidding Winches #301  
Sun light eats the ropes up too, along with abrasion problems...

You won't be seeing one on my winch...

SR

a couple good points there. yes he likes the light weight. and that he can get about 200 feet on it. I sit around 100 feet with my cable
 
   / Skidding Winches #302  
i dont know if the strength would be there for me. i wouldn't mind another 50 feet of
length tho
 
   / Skidding Winches #303  
The strength between the two is the same, at least when the rope is new...

I keep about 165' on my winch...

SR
 
   / Skidding Winches #304  
I have been unhappy with the 3 clamps and hook on the end of my winch cable. It is stiff and often in the way. I always put the first log on the top (red) slider and then the next log on the second slider, and on down the line. That way I can always repull the cable to hook the next log. Most times the hook is unused. That leaves a stiff section of cable with 3 clamps and a hook sticking out into the hitch. Sometimes it gets buried in the middle of the hitch, or hooks onto a choker during the skid out and it's a pita to undo when I get to the landing. Or if I use the hook that log is not held in tight and even with the rest and hangs low.

FerruleEnd1.JPG

So I cleaned up the cable end up by replacing the 3 clamps with a ferrule type end button and putting the hook on a 5th slider. I think I will like it better - time will tell.

FerruleEnd2.JPG

FerruleEnd3.JPG

I hooked up to a stump and pulled hard enough to move the tractor a foot with brakes set and ice chains on all four tires. It held.

FerruleEnd4.JPG

I am running 1/2" cable. The smallest quick ferrule I found was for 7/16" to 9/16" cable.

D4 Wedge-Type Quick Ferrule - 7/16" - 9/16" Wire Rope

gg
 
   / Skidding Winches #305  
1/2" cable is bigger then mine, I have 8mm. I took my hook off, it was always catching weeds and sticks so I just have a loop at that the end secured with cable clamps.
 
   / Skidding Winches #306  
That's considered a no no… You can see in your picts. why...

It kinks the cable every time you pull a single load, single loads should always be hooked to the very end, so it doesn't continually kink the cable.

SR
 
   / Skidding Winches #307  
That's considered a no no… You can see in your picts. why...

It kinks the cable every time you pull a single load, single loads should always be hooked to the very end, so it doesn't continually kink the cable.

SR

Your comment is not w/o merit however I would call that a bend not a kink. A mild bend comparable to going over a pulley. The sliders have a radius to them to minimize cable kink. Anyway in my thinking, life is full of trade offs. The end of the cable has to be redone periodically no matter what you do if you run sliders. If I have three or four trees down up in the woods that will make up a hitch, such that I have to run the cable up thru the trees using different paths for each one, I hook the first one onto the top slider and pull it to the tractor. Then I grab the cable and pull it to the second tree. Then winch that one back. Etc. When they are all pulled in to the tractor I set the brake, lift the winch, and take off. To me the ease and convenience of working that way far outweighs worrying about weather my cable is perfectly straight. It took me about a half hour to put that end on and it is reusable. This is a logging cable not an overhead high-rise construction crane cable. Just The way I think and the trade off I am willing to make. You may not agree.

EDIT: Take a look at the new Wallensteins. They have knob ends and sliders just like most cable skidders which is where I got the idea.

gg
 
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   / Skidding Winches #308  
I have a tajfun 45e I use behind my L4310 kubota it has around 280 ft of cable I have a remote switch with it.i can go down a steep hill in the woods and follow the log back up the hill to the winch by using the remote switch .sometimes I hook the cable to my four wheeler and pull it down through the woods then hook to a log and follow it back to the winch while riding the four wheeler while holding the remote switch really saves a lot of Time Thanks Rick
 
   / Skidding Winches #309  
That's considered a no no?/strong> You can see in your picts. why...

It kinks the cable every time you pull a single load, single loads should always be hooked to the very end, so it doesn't continually kink the cable.

SR
So that's what I been doang rong all thees yeers..... Every 20 cord or so , if I make it that far, I end up taking off 6"-ish just to get rid of the hair and any kinks that accidentally occurred while doing my professional logging............
 
   / Skidding Winches #310  
I posted this in another thread on here somewhere, but this is what's on the end of my cable:
keyhole cable end.jpg


There is a wedge in the body. Cable runs up through the body, over the top of the wedge and back down the other side (the cable end remains just barely inside the body, so no ends to get poked by). I have a grab hook on a short chain I can put through the keyhole when I need a hook for something, but I don't use it much. I could attach the chain from the grab hook directly onto the clamp body, replacing the keyhole/swivel, but I'd lose the swivel action if I did that. I do like that swivel action: it helps keep the cable from twisting up if I'm winching a log on a side-hill and ir rolls down the hill a bit.

One of these days, I'll try to get some better pictures of it, if anyone is interested.
 
 

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