Comparison Kioti CK2610HST vs Kubota L2501HST : what am I missing?

[newbury]

Buy both
(from a guy that couldn't spend over 12K on a tractor)
/edit - wouldn't

 

[tradosaurus]

Loader geometry, strength mounting points center of gravity have all been figured out already the numbers are published nothing for me to compare other than the published numbers!
A simple look at the spec sheet will give the OP all the 鼎orrect comparison he needs with no bull added!

My opinion is that Kubota keeps the loader manifold pressure lower (thus lower lift capacity) for safety reasons. There are threads that show how to increase the hydraulic pressure thus increasing the lift capacity on a Kubota CUT.

 

[paulfun9]

My opinion is that Kubota keeps the loader manifold pressure lower (thus lower lift capacity) for safety reasons. There are threads that show how to increase the hydraulic pressure thus increasing the lift capacity on a Kubota CUT.

Your “opinion” doesn’t count when something breaks and they void the warrantee, does it?

 

[K5lwq]

The difference between the two loader's lift capacity is 121lbs. Not sure that is enough to debate over. :confused3:

 

[mangler]

What about cab are you getting one, Kubota may offer factory heat and AC where Kioti doesnt.

For me I played around with the B2650 and the Kioti 2510. Kioti was was nice and rated well. I ended with Kubota for what what its worth between these two machines. 1. I dont buy to much into the dealer thing but still want a dealer some what close to get parts if needed or pick their brains if needed. With that the Kioti dealer was small and only had a few machines, ironically 6 months after purchase they stopped selling kiotis and sell bobcat tractors. Other nice thing is you can pretty much Amazon and Ebay kubota parts.
2. I wanted a cab, Kubota came with heat and AC, kioti was only heat. Price difference was like 3k, but kubota did run an implement special and ended up with a free york rake, so pricing was really 2k difference.

IMO if the Kioti spec wise is better, has everything you want and you like buy it. But if they are really even and the only determining factor is price, maybe the 3k for the kubota might be worth it. There other things to considers how many speed HST, cruise control, telescoping arms in the back.

Thanks for the comparison. No cab for me (i would destroy it in my bush adventures), plus lets face it, I don't know if i would get the 4k out of it.

The 2650 is a very nice machine. Check out the mods this guy makes if you have not seen them yet. Almost made me go dark orange...

Kubota B265 Complete Mod Collection - YouTube

 

[mangler]

The difference between the two loader's lift capacity is 121lbs. Not sure that is enough to debate over. :confused3:

That's for the old loader Kioti CL2610. The new CK2610 now comes with the KL4030, which destroys the Kubota loader on paper (lifts 1839lbs at max height, vs 1131lbs for the Kubota).

 

[Milo]

I had a B2650 but found the need for little heavier and wider tractor, the two I narrowed it down to were the same you are considering and I looked at both in HST. The Kioti 2610 on paper seemed like a slightly better tractor for about $1,000 less than the L2501, and it may well be, but after weeks of agonizing I went with the L2501. The deciding factor was how completely trouble free both my previous Kubota's had been. Had my experience been with Kioti's it would probably have swayed me that direction. Also the smooth operation of the controls, loader in particular, that I was use to on my Kubota's. The Kioti dealer had two CK's a 2610 and 4010 and both had apparently been sitting out on his grass for some months because the bright plastic controls were faded and there was some surface rust on various places, not a big deal to some but that bothers me. The L2501 had just arrived and was factory fresh not even dust on the tires. So far I only have around 40 hours it but I'm very pleased with the L2501.

 

[K5lwq]

That's for the old loader Kioti CL2610. The new CK2610 now comes with the KL4030, which destroys the Kubota loader on paper (lifts 1839lbs at max height, vs 1131lbs for the Kubota).

That makes more sense. Well, I guess the bickering can continue on.

 

[DK35vince]

That's for the old loader Kioti CL2610. The new CK2610 now comes with the KL4030, which destroys the Kubota loader on paper (lifts 1839lbs at max height, vs 1131lbs for the Kubota).

All Kioti loaders I checked were rated at the pins at full height (like most other Mfg) except the KL4030.
KL4030 is listed 1839# at 59.84 inches (why is Kioti playing games with the loader specs on this loader ??)
http://www.kioti.com/products/attachments/front-end-loaders/kl4030/

 

[mangler]

All Kioti loaders I checked were rated at the pins at full height (like most other Mfg) except the KL4030.
KL4030 is listed 1839# at 59.84 inches (why is Kioti playing games with the loader specs on this loader ??)
http://www.kioti.com/products/attachments/front-end-loaders/kl4030/

Yes, this is very interesting. The difference seems to be smaller than I reported, comparing apples to apples.

L2501 loader is rated at 1490lbs (59" height, at pins). KL4030 is rated at 1839lbs @59.84" height, at pins. Still a significant 350lbs, but nowhere near the 700lbs when you misread the numbers. With willingness to play with hydraulic pressures on the Kubota, they may very well be close. But I would not want to "adjust" anything while under warranty, so I consider the 350 lbs a real advantage for the Kioti, off the lot at least.