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[MossRoad]

The NYC subway did the normal thing when adjusting to the lower number of riders. The reduced the number of trains running. ‘Of course, it’s not cost effective to have trains running with only a few people spread out in all the cars, right?’

So fewer trains means the essential employees going to work on the subway all had to cram into the available cars. No way to spread out and so the subway wound up being a hot bed of spreading CV. Their model of cost efficiency.

Here we have a train called the south shore. It goes from South Bend to Chicago. They used to just bring 2 cars over from Michigan City, as there weren't enough riders to justify more. So when you left South Bend and got to Michigan City, they'd stop, add 4 more cars to the train, them move along. That added about 10 minutes to the trip. Well, folks want speed, so they now bring 6 cars over and back on each train despite them being 95% empty. It's 34 miles each way, so 68 miles X 5 trains a day X 7 days a week X 4 cars X 52 weeks a year = 495, 040 car miles per year of empty train cars paid for by taxpayer subsidies to save 10 minutes. I wonder how many dollars-per-mile it costs to operate those cars?

Anyhow, back to our regular programming....

 

[two_bit_score]

There's nothing distorted about the numbers. Those are the numbers for the country as a whole. If you want to take pieces of the whole and analyze those, those are fractions of the whole. NY, Michigan, etc... they're all in the same country.

In your business if you had a territory of 20 districts and one district was losing $10 million a year and the other 19 were making a combined $10 million per year I guess you could say your company was breaking even every year and not making any money. Incorrect. You have a problem with one area.

You address the problem in that district or area. So NYC is evidently the problem area.

What you don’t do is let that main problematic district pull down the whole company.

Go back to what I said earlier. If South Dakota was the gross leading state in CV cases/deaths nationally do you really think NYC would shut down if they were only affected 1/1000th as much as SD? (I don’t recall exactly what the ratios are but something like it.)


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[two_bit_score]

Here we have a train called the south shore. It goes from South Bend to Chicago. They used to just bring 2 cars over from Michigan City, as there weren't enough riders to justify more. So when you left South Bend and got to Michigan City, they'd stop, add 4 more cars to the train, them move along. That added about 10 minutes to the trip. Well, folks want speed, so they now bring 6 cars over and back on each train despite them being 95% empty. It's 34 miles each way, so 68 miles X 5 trains a day X 7 days a week X 4 cars X 52 weeks a year = 495, 040 car miles per year of empty train cars paid for by taxpayer subsidies to save 10 minutes. I wonder how many dollars-per-mile it costs to operate those cars?

Anyhow, back to our regular programming....

Great illustration. Of what though?

It’s not the same as the NYC subway and CV infected passengers spreading the virus.

 

[k0ua]

NY would say "we don't give a rat's patootie, 'bout them rednecks in flyover county no-how". that is what NY'ers would say. And everyone knows it.

 

[newbury]

NY would say "we don't give a rat's patootie, 'bout them rednecks in flyover county no-how". that is what NY'ers would say. And everyone knows it.

not so - for example after Katrina

é„*s we speak, a task-force of 70 MTA buses, 230 MTA personnel and 172 New York City Police Officers is headed to New Orleans. The buses will transport victims of the hurricane from New Orleans to Dallas, Texas and Little Rock, Arkansas. They are being escorted by support vehicles, including highway cars, tow, repair, supply and communication vehicles. The buses left yesterday from 1 Police Plaza and the first group should be arriving in New Orleans momentarily. 30 more buses carrying 90 MTA personnel and 20 more Police Officers are prepared to leave this morning from the MTAç—´ Staten Island bus depot.

Statement by Mayor Bloomberg On New York City's Hurricane Katrina Relief Efforts | City of New York

 

[MossRoad]

Great illustration. Of what though?

It痴 not the same as the NYC subway and CV infected passengers spreading the virus.

The illustration is in NYC they add and remove trains for economic efficiency. Which works to the detriment of public safety in this virus situation by packing them in like sardines. Here, they operate economically inefficiently, which happens to work out better in this virus situation, since you have about 20 people on a train with capacity of 558!

 

[/pine]

On the subject of new yorker's attitudes...I wonder how many are wearing masks when in public...Back when they were rushing to clean up after the 911 terrorist attack...a majority of the workers refused to wear particle masks that were "supposed" to be mandatory for anyone on the site...later the same people that refused to wear masks were some of the most vocal when screaming for the government funds given for related health issues...

 

[two_bit_score]

The illustration is in NYC they add and remove trains for economic efficiency. Which works to the detriment of public safety in this virus situation by packing them in like sardines. Here, they operate economically inefficiently, which happens to work out better in this virus situation, since you have about 20 people on a train with capacity of 558!

I’m sorry Moss I missed your point originally. It is a very good example, now that I understand it.

 

[rswyan]

not so - for example after Katrina

Statement by Mayor Bloomberg On New York City's Hurricane Katrina Relief Efforts | City of New York

Well imagine that ...

 

[MikePA]

The illustration is in NYC they add and remove trains for economic efficiency. Which works to the detriment of public safety in this virus situation by packing them in like sardines. Here, they operate economically inefficiently, which happens to work out better in this virus situation, since you have about 20 people on a train with capacity of 558!

The same efficiency model applies to many, if not all, forms of public transportation plus the airlines. Toss in other aspects of living in many big cities, e.g., buses, trains, elevators. It is no wonder many big cities which rely on public transportation are the CV19 hot spots.