Rear End SLIDING

[GarlicOfEden]

Hey Y'all!

I'm dealing with an issue and I'm hoping there are some row crop farmers here that can enlighten me.

I'm new to farming. I grow specialty crops. I'm farming a 6% slope. After learning some lessons this past season, I'm changing things up. I'm growing root crops and one thing I didn't see coming was "Angle of Slide." I have to do a bunch of rototilling for the garlic. I had planned my rows pretty as can be on the contour as instructed by NRCS, not realizing the deformable earth was gonna leave my rear end sliding. I was crab-walking and playing heck trying to keep my implement inline without the front wheels running over my raised rows. I cover with straw mulch to help with erosion but I learned I need some down hill angle to empty the furrows. I'm re-planning the farm layout and need some advice how to minimize the angle of slide from some seasoned pros!

 

[Thomas]

Are you using 4wd,is there frontend counter weight on the tractor?

 

[Birdhunter1]

Mowing on slopes with a 200 hp fwd with duals front and rear I still had the rear end slide slightly, its going to happen, this was on a pretty good side hill and the batwing was more downhill than the tractor.
Things that will help are weight in the rear tires, even deflated tires will help but be careful of the tire squishing too much, weight on the front end (whether it is a 2wd or 4wd), instead of having your implement centered behind you try to offset it to the uphill side on your 3 pt, and do not try to dig too much with your implement.

Good luck with it.

 

[LouNY]

They made some implements with side hill hitches,
you may need to rig up a similar system.
It was usually a hydraulic side shift on the mounting of the implement.
Other then that, bigger tractor less implement or reduce the drag the implement is inducing.

 

[GarlicOfEden]

As usual, I forgot to list all the valuable info. Yes, 4WD and I use it when pulling. What I'm wondering about, is what would be the best angle to plant across the slope. Obvously, straight up and down the slope would be the least side drift, but too much erosion. Contouring perpendicular to the slope would be least erosion, but most side drift plus. I am looking at leaving grassed drive lanes between the rows and the furrows between the straddle. I've put on deep diamond tread R-3s to keep from tearing up the grass rows like my R-1s would, but even then that's gonna need the furrows to drain to keep the grass from turning to mud. Is there a best angle that anyone has noticed for furrow drainage and least side drift? I realize I could be chasing Unicorns.

 

[GarlicOfEden]

They made some implements with side hill hitches,
you may need to rig up a similar system.
It was usually a hydraulic side shift on the mounting of the implement.
Other then that, bigger tractor less implement or reduce the drag the implement is inducing.

Oh, Lou! It's as if you knew I already have "Tractor Envy!" Something with a buddy seat for my 3 year old and room for car seat for the 18 mo. old would be amazing, but I'm on only 10 acres.

 

[npalen]

Coil Spring Disc Stabilizer

Might be able to rig something like this to help with stabilization on side slopes.

This is how the big time operators do it via GPS:
Implement Guidance

 

[GarlicOfEden]

Coil Spring Disc Stabilizer

Might be able to rig something like this to help with stabilization on side slopes.

This is how the big time operators do it via GPS:
Implement Guidance

Awesome npalen!

I was afraid I would have to hire another operator to steer the back end of implement. This is genius. I can't afford the fancy gps system yet, but I can rig that to a hydraulic remote and a camera. Bout time to have something for my right hand to do. Thanks for steering me in the right direction. (pun intended!)

 

[npalen]

Glad to be of any help. Hope it works for you.

Alloway 2 Cultivator - Bad Axe, Michigan | Machinery Pete
Just an example of basic Orthman guidance on a row crop cultivator.

 

[GarlicOfEden]

We had a major snow melt event and as many of you know, that can be worse than a major thunderstorm. I checked my fields. My contour rows (perpendicular) had some substantial gullies. The 15 to 30 degree angled downhill from what would be contour showed very little erosion.