Winches and power drain

   / Winches and power drain #31  
I have this 12,000 lb cheapo winch on my tractor for ten years from Northerntool so far it's worked great and would you believe it only draws 5 amps of non stop continuous use..........
I'd be more apt to believe you have had too many beers, before you typed that...

SR
 
   / Winches and power drain #32  
I'd be more apt to believe you have had too many beers, before you typed that...

SR

I looked through the add for typos and didn’t see any. It’s definitely way more than 5 amps.
 
   / Winches and power drain #33  
The cheaper the winch the higher the amp draw under load. That's one of the reasons there's a price difference.

There is a difference, but even a quality winch FAR outstrips the capacity of a typical ATV alternator. Here are two tables pulled from the manuals of a cheap Harbor Freight Winch and a Warn Winch. Same pull rating, but different speeds under load.

HF Badlands 3500# Winch first layer line pull
Badlands 3500 winch.jpg


Warn Axon 3.5 Winch
Warn Axon 3.5 winch.jpg


Yes, the Warn winch draw fewer amps and does so while pulling at a higher speed, but they still draw a LOT of amps, even for a small winch like this. In some cases, it's enough to permanently damage a small ATV battery. Keep your engine revs up, and pull in short bursts, allowing time for both the winch and the battery to cool.
 
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   / Winches and power drain #34  
   / Winches and power drain #35  
There is a difference, but even a quality winch FAR outstrips the capacity of a typical ATV alternator. Here are two tables pulled from the manuals of a cheap Harbor Freight Winch and a Warn Winch. Same pull rating, but different speeds under load.

HF Badlands 3500# Winch first layer line pull
View attachment 653400

Warn Axon 3.5 Winch
View attachment 653399

Yes, the Warn winch draw fewer amps and do so while pulling at a higher speed, but they still pull a LOT, even for a small winch like this. In some cases, it's enough to permanently damage a small ATV battery. Keep your engine revs up, and pull in short bursts, allowing time for both the winch and the battery to cool.

Oh yeah, make no mistake, I am not saying an ATV will survive with hard use of any winch, regardless of brand. Maybe someone with an ATV can tell us what their charging amps are?
 
   / Winches and power drain #36  
Yeaaa, there's no free lunch, electric winches are power hogs, that's why they invented the pto winch!

NO ATV alternator can keep up with a electric winch, not even a small electric winch... There isn't even enough room inside an ATV's motor/side covers, to put a big enough alternator in, that would even come close to keeping up...

SR
 
   / Winches and power drain #37  
Yeaaa, there's no free lunch, electric winches are power hogs, that's why they invented the pto winch!

NO ATV alternator can keep up with a electric winch, not even a small electric winch... There isn't even enough room inside an ATV's motor/side covers, to put a big enough alternator in, that would even come close to keeping up...

SR

Not exactly. I have a Mile Marker hydraulic winch on my F350 and it's not PTO powered. It has a hydraulic pump driven off the serpentine belt that powers the engine accessories. Have a nice Ramsey sitting in the shop as well, but it's PTO driven. 20 ton.
 
   / Winches and power drain #38  
Not exactly. I have a Mile Marker hydraulic winch on my F350 and it's not PTO powered. It has a hydraulic pump driven off the serpentine belt that powers the engine accessories. Have a nice Ramsey sitting in the shop as well, but it's PTO driven. 20 ton.
I've got AC electric winches, DC electric winches, hydraulic powered winches, PTO powered winches and even a 25K winch that's get's power through the out put shaft on a semi tranny, plus it's own gear box ect…

But, I think you know what I meant with my last post...

SR
 
   / Winches and power drain #39  
4 pages on a winch lol, 12k winches doing 5 amps.. people must start drinking early in the day, i've actually thrown a meter of most of this stuff. atv amp output is a joke, some atv's can barely add lights without overloading it.
 
   / Winches and power drain #40  
I've got AC electric winches, DC electric winches, hydraulic powered winches, PTO powered winches and even a 25K winch that's get's power through the out put shaft on a semi tranny, plus it's own gear box ect…

But, I think you know what I meant with my last post...

SR

I certainly do..... People 'think' the power for their electric winch magically appears I guess.
 

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