Broken Loader Mount; KL4030 & CK2610H

[SManZ350]

If you end up fixing it, take measurements of the hole location, V it out, weld it up making sure to fill the bolt holes as you'll never save them nor get a good weld trying to save them. Put a doubler on the inside wrapping around the edge using a piece of 4 x 4 x 3/8 angle with one leg cut down to wrap around the broken edge so you'd end up with a 4 x 1ｱ angle. Redrill the holes and weld it where the weld won't cause any undue stress.
The other leg, notch it out to fit over the gussett/brace on the inside. Be aware of where you end or start your welds so you don't have either a start or finish where there's be any concentrated stress.
What ever you do to one side, be it replace or repair, you're going to have to do to the other as well and reinforce it as well.
Get rid of those cheap ***** bolts and lockwashers, go with a gr10.9, locknuts and flats. Not saying the bolts were loose but if they were, it didn't help the situation at all.
Saying all that, here's hoping the dealer supports you.........Mike

Hi Mike! I will definitely get this advice to my friend who can weld so he can break it down. I don't understand much of it :laughing:

When I bought my CK20S, I was under the impression the loader was like a loader on my Case 580E or a skid steer.
The dealer sat me down and explained in DETAIL what a CUT loader is, and what it is not.

It is not a piece of construction equipment such as a Skid or backhoe, as he said "It is not made to slam into the dirt pile like a skid, and will not be covered if it is"
It is made to pick up dirt, gravel, etc out of a loose pile and move, and drop.

Slackdaddy, although this is my first tractor I was thankfully able to get this info ahead of time through the forums. I didn't think I was working it hard and I tried to keep that in mind while working. I have plenty of time and haven't been in a rush to get this done, though I could likely have gotten it done in a week with a rented backhoe.

 

[shovelmike]

I wish you the best in getting that loader mount back in shape. That's a nice backstop area you made, I wish everyone was that safety conscious.

 

[SManZ350]

I wish you the best in getting that loader mount back in shape. That's a nice backstop area you made, I wish everyone was that safety conscious.

Thanks shovelmike! Thats just an example from Google but mine will look very similar when its done, with berms down both sides as well!

 

[rademamj1]

Re: Broken Loader Mount; KL4030 & CK2610H

While working with my CK4010 tractor and loader (KL4020) today, I was thinking of your loader breaking. So I carefully looked at my loader, and saw nothing on my loader to be concerned about. In fact, I did notice just how different my loader design was at the stress points and pivot points from your loader. Gussets and Single stronger high grade stainless bolts seem to be the dominate design. Therefore the loader frame incurs less stress and is far less prone to failure. I guess what I am trying to say, is perhaps the KL4030 loader has a slight design flaw and your frame breakage is a direct result of the design flaw.

Keep us updated on how your situation with this loader repair goes.

 

[SManZ350]

Re: Broken Loader Mount; KL4030 & CK2610H

While working with my CK4010 tractor and loader (KL4020) today, I was thinking of your loader breaking. So I carefully looked at my loader, and saw nothing on my loader to be concerned about. In fact, I did notice just how different my loader design was at the stress points and pivot points from your loader. Gussets and Single stronger high grade stainless bolts seem to be the dominate design. Therefore the loader frame incurs less stress and is far less prone to failure. I guess what I am trying to say, is perhaps the KL4030 loader has a slight design flaw and your frame breakage is a direct result of the design flaw.

Keep us updated on how your situation with this loader repair goes.

Hi rademamj1, thanks for the info! Can you post pics of the parts that you are talking about? It may help me when I have my friend add gussets to the loader mount.

 

[finn1]

Wrong machine for the job. It’s a CUT, not a piece of construction equipment. That’s work for a CTL, excavator, small dozer, or a combination of all three.

 

[mrmikey]

........stronger high grade stainless bolts

I believe SS bolts are equivalent to a GR5. They also have the problem of galling quite easily if you don't use an appropriate anti-seize compound. I've found them good for corrosion but bad for any kind of structural fastening especially something that's moving all the time.
As for lockwashers.....that's a pet peeve of mine, I hate the d%%n things, I've seen soo many of them break and ruin a bolted connection. Not to mention the way they chew into the material.
Not tying to be an *****, just my observations ..............Mike

 

[justman777]

Wrong machine for the job. It’s a CUT, not a piece of construction equipment. That’s work for a CTL, excavator, small dozer, or a combination of all three.

I'd tend to agree. You can get it done with your tractor, for sure. You're likely to put more wear/tear on your machine than you'd like, and it'll take what seems like forever though. You'd probably be money ahead (time and tractor depreciation) by renting/paying for a dozer for one day and be done with it. You'd save some wear and tear on your tractor and get more life out of it that way.

 

[jabelding]

If you did that to your loader frame, I would be checking my front wheel bearings.

 

[SManZ350]

I have good news and a positive outcome! The dealer went to bat for me, discussed with Kioti, and it was covered under warranty. A new right side loader mount bracket was installed, and some of the hydraulic hard lines on the inside of the right loader arm were replaced. When the bracket broke the loader arms shifted to the left. When the loader was lowered the hard lines caught the brush guard and got bent.

I picked up the tractor today and they advised me to take it easy on it. For the range I've rented a mid-size backhoe loader for a week and taken that time off work towards the end of this month. I'm going to knock out the rest of the range, grading out a 2nd flat spot on the hill behind the house for the lady's garden, and move fill dirt so I can pour concrete to extend the patio with it.

In the meantime I'll work with my friend that can weld to add gussets over the part of the bracket where the hydraulic hose bracket bolts to. Those holes in the loader mount bracket are an obvious weak point, especially the one closest to the edge. They look like they acted like perforations on a mail stamp.