5325 power reverser issue

[Loadstar]

Working on a dead in the water 5325.

*Issue- after a pressure wash tractor will not start. I’m not necessarily convinced this caused the issue. Everything works but the N light just flashes and the power reverser malfunction indicator light is on. It thinks it’s in gear so it will not start with key.

*what I’ve done- performed the obvious... tested fuses, checked and tested relays, inspected connections and their pins and traced down harnesses for wear or damage. Further in depth I pulled the dash and checked/tested the hidden relays, checked seat switch, pulled any other plastic hiding wires or connections and checked them. Also cleaned and serviced battery which has 12.6 volts.

I contacted a local dealer which was of no suggestions or help. A wiring diagram is $350. I was told to google issue they guess.

This is my neighbors machine and it is currently a in the way lawn ornament. Him and his wife are not currently working due to work shutdowns from the virus and to add bad to worse his mother lost her battle to cancer yesterday. I am a mechanic/technician so my electrical and mechanical skills are up there. What I need is location of components that could be the potential issue, possibly some testing procedures, or a power reverser diagram. It truly shocks me how worthless Hutson John Deere was for any type of assistance.

 

[beenthere]

It truly shocks me how worthless Hutson John Deere was for any type of assistance.

Ask them to print out the wiring diagrams for you to work from.. they can if they want to help you. Hopefully you didn't burn any bridges already.

Also, someone here may chime in with the wiring diagrams too. Sorry, this model is not included on my CD ROM.

Check that the other safety switches are in the right position.. PTO switch off, seat switch closed, etc.

Frustrated myself yesterday when my 4300 wouldn't start. Wiggled the PTO lever between ON-neutral-brake positions and made a connection. Apparently thought is was engaged.

The result of the power wash may have knocked a switch out of place, or pulled a wire out of a connector. Wish you well and for your neighbor.

 

[Loadstar]

Ask them to print out the wiring diagrams for you to work from.. they can if they want to help you. Hopefully you didn't burn any bridges already.

Also, someone here may chime in with the wiring diagrams too. Sorry, this model is not included on my CD ROM.

Check that the other safety switches are in the right position.. PTO switch off, seat switch closed, etc.

Frustrated myself yesterday when my 4300 wouldn't start. Wiggled the PTO lever between ON-neutral-brake positions and made a connection. Apparently thought is was engaged.

The result of the power wash may have knocked a switch out of place, or pulled a wire out of a connector. Wish you well and for your neighbor.

I was nothing but polite and professional with them. They said they could not print anything out and apologized. I’m not knocking them just stating a fact. I might as well have called Walmart and asked them. I did check safeties and any harness I could. I’m just trying to do him a favor as a friend due to his current situation. My time is a premium and I would save a lot of it if the dealer would help. I’m just glad of all the equipment types I work on no manufacturer is as stingy on information as they are. Sorry still a bit steamed at the situation

 

[beenthere]

Send a pm to member "joecdeere"
He has been very helpful with some service manuals.. no idea if his covers for the 5325.

The Deere dealer I visited for a part a couple days ago was very understaffed, and trying to accommodate customers at the door.. very inconvenient for them and meeting the Ag demands for field-ready equipment and dealing with this COVID-19 shutdown, may put some limits on their response. It would take their time. Not making excuses for them either.

 

[Zebrafive]

Does it have the "electro" controlled Power Reverser? I am thinking power washing got the reverser control wet inside.

 

[Loadstar]

Does it have the "electro" controlled Power Reverser? I am thinking power washing got the reverser control wet inside.

That’s the style. It doesn’t look like dash or operator station was washed. Checking that with a meter I had continuity from an end wire to one of the other three in any given position. For instance continuity from a to b in foreword but not a to c or d. It would change in each position which is how I would expect it to be.

 

[LouNY]

On some tractors with the power reversers / power shuttles if the parking brake is applied or the switch thinks it is the indicator will flash and not engage.

 

[Zebrafive]

That痴 the style. It doesn稚 look like dash or operator station was washed. Checking that with a meter I had continuity from an end wire to one of the other three in any given position. For instance continuity from a to b in foreword but not a to c or d. It would change in each position which is how I would expect it to be.

Next I would check the solenoid on the transmission, and it's connector

 

[jd110]

That’s the style. It doesn’t look like dash or operator station was washed. Checking that with a meter I had continuity from an end wire to one of the other three in any given position. For instance continuity from a to b in foreword but not a to c or d. It would change in each position which is how I would expect it to be.

Check for continuity from B to D when in neutral. This is circuit for neutral start. Power comes in D and B goes to neutral relay K16. I am assuming open station tractor? If so, is a flat platform tractor or straddle mount? Wiring varies depending on configuration.

 

[skipperbrown]

I'd let it dry out for a couple of days. I bet you forced some water into something that doesn't like water and got a short that will hopefully correct itself.

 

[Loadstar]

Next I would check the solenoid on the transmission, and it's connector

Excellent thank you, I’m suspicious of something like this and not hung on the pressure washing. It had had a larger fuse installed when it had a similar issue years ago. (Idiot) I will attempt to get to it because it’s pretty tight. The only thing gentleman at the service counter at the dealer would identify yesterday was the neutral safety switch which he then said “you probably won’t be able to identify.” Thanks fella. They wouldn’t identify any other electrical components on the transmission and said they will gladly come out and repair it when I’m finished. A little bit of an unnecessary attack on my livelihood but it’s what I have come to expect from our friendly neighborhood John Deere dealer.

 

[Loadstar]

I'd let it dry out for a couple of days. I bet you forced some water into something that doesn't like water and got a short that will hopefully correct itself.

I’d rather find the smoking gun and correct the issue so this doesn’t happen with the machine on a jobsite. Were fortunate it’s at home and not currently needed.

 

[Loadstar]

Check for continuity from B to D when in neutral. This is circuit for neutral start. Power comes in D and B goes to neutral relay K16. I am assuming open station tractor? If so, is a flat platform tractor or straddle mount? Wiring varies depending on configuration.

I believe this clears the handle then I appreciate that. It’s an open flat platform machine.

 

[jd110]

Do you have 12 volts coming into reverser lever on pin D in connector? If so then next you need to remove connector from controller to see if power is making it to pin A4 on wire number 506 and also to neutral relay K16 terminal 56 also wire #506. Wire 506 also goes through 24 pin connector between console harness and chassis harness. Could be a bad connection there. Check pin #8.

 

[kthompson]

I have a 5525 and if I am correct the issue is simple and it is in gear. You can not start it with the power reverser in forward or reverse and that is what the "N" blinking is telling you to place it in neutral. It operates like an old stiff tur signal, have three positions. Up is forward, middle is neutral and down is reverse. Can not remember if it being in a range with cause this issue but be sure the power reverser switch is in the middle position and range lever and also the gear shift lever and believe that will solve the issue.

If I am correct on the power reverser lever don't kick yourself. Had a person who owns JD tell me my tractor had issue as he failed to crank it. He forgot to check that lever. Hey, also check pto lever for it will not crank if it is engaged. If it has the economy pto it has two levers, don't miss one is the speed selector. It is the other think longer lever that engages the pto.

They are blessed to have a friend who can help and is willing to help with all they have going on. May God bless your efforts and ease their hurts.

 

[Loadstar]

Do you have 12 volts coming into reverser lever on pin D in connector? If so then next you need to remove connector from controller to see if power is making it to pin A4 on wire number 506 and also to neutral relay K16 terminal 56 also wire #506. Wire 506 also goes through 24 pin connector between console harness and chassis harness. Could be a bad connection there. Check pin #8.

I think I may get back to this tomorrow, I’ll double check on this.

 

[Loadstar]

checked the neutral safety switch tonight and shoved it into the barn to pull the dash again when I get home from work. Also separated and inspected the 24 pin connector and all looked well. Will check for voltage at d terminal and double check through b for continuity tomorrow and voltage up to relay.

 

[Loadstar]

Do you have 12 volts coming into reverser lever on pin D in connector? If so then next you need to remove connector from controller to see if power is making it to pin A4 on wire number 506 and also to neutral relay K16 terminal 56 also wire #506. Wire 506 also goes through 24 pin connector between console harness and chassis harness. Could be a bad connection there. Check pin #8.

With key on... I unhooked the power reverser connector and I have no power at the reverser lever connector. Reverser lever ohms out good. Pulled lower fuse block and checked the backside and the fuses down there and connections are good. Checked neutral safety switch incoming and I have 12v on one side. I cannot ohm out neutral safety switch without pulling it. Jumping it has no effect though.

 

[Loadstar]

This issue has been isolated to the 10amp micro fuse F17 MFWD/FNR blowing instantly when the tractor is put in reverse. Having forward it just teaches us to currently carefully plan moves until I get to the root of this.

 

[beenthere]

Loadstar
Stick a rigged 12v light bulb in the micro fuse slot such that a short will just show up as a lighted bulb.. until you track down the short causing the problem.

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