Transfer switch

[strantor]

Personally, I see FAR greater safety issues with many of the absolute JUNK (But somehow Approved) consumer transfer switches than someone powering up the lines with their back feed.

Sorry, but I just can't stand this mentallity of do something unsafe or sketchy and IMMEDIATELY people WILL DIE! Many industries take calculated risks all the times about acceptable numbers of DEATHS in all manner of circumstances.

It is MISINFORMATION to suggest that a small generator could power up much beyond ones own transformer, if the switch feeding it had tripped. You think somwhow your genny is gonna run your neighbors 200 amp service? Please explain how?

consider the situation where the downed line is right outside your house. Maybe you're at the end of a run. You could conceivably energize a pole transformer without energizing the whole neighborhood.

 

[strantor]

Personally, I see FAR greater safety issues with many of the absolute JUNK (But somehow Approved) consumer transfer switches than someone powering up the lines with their back feed.

Sorry, but I just can't stand this mentallity of do something unsafe or sketchy and IMMEDIATELY people WILL DIE! Many industries take calculated risks all the times about acceptable numbers of DEATHS in all manner of circumstances.

It is MISINFORMATION to suggest that a small generator could power up much beyond ones own transformer, if the switch feeding it had tripped. You think somwhow your genny is gonna run your neighbors 200 amp service? Please explain how?

You're painting what I said with an awful lot of artistic license. Where is the attitude coming from? Have I offended you at some point?

 

[Industrial Toys]

YES, like I said above, and why no lineman assumes anything is dead. Or people are TOLD not to touch downed wires. And it would be a rare case, where the high tension lines might have been downed and lying on the ground. I give you that. But the odds, of someone powering up their transformer, AND their lines feeding their transformer are severed from the system, or lying on the ground, starts to become remote.

ABSOLUTELY, don't do it.

Actually, there should just be a $100,000 fine or twenty years in jail. And it gets me thinking that IF it was such a danger, why there wouldn't be. STUPIDITY should always be heavily punished, but it isn't and we get what we get as a result.

 

[strantor]

YES, like I said above, and why no lineman assumes anything is dead. Or people are TOLD not to touch downed wires. And it would be a rare case, where the high tension lines might have been downed and lying on the ground. I give you that. But the odds, of someone powering up their transformer, AND their lines feeding their transformer are severed from the system, or lying on the ground, starts to become remote.

ABSOLUTELY, don't do it.

Actually, there should just be a $100,000 fine or twenty years in jail. And it gets me thinking that IF it was such a danger, why there wouldn't be. STUPIDITY should always be heavily punished, but it isn't and we get what we get as a result.

There ARE fines for doing it.
"Backfeeding Generator Danger—Backfeed Danger| Norwall" Backfeeding Generator Danger—Backfeed Danger| Norwall

ILLEGAL BACKFEEDING
Backfeeding is a dangerous practice illegal in many localities. If you backfeed your home’s electrical system and injure or kill a worker, you are liable and accountable, and face a very real possibility of criminal prosecution for your actions. Further, even your actions don’t injure anyone, if the utility finds that you are backfeeding their lines, you may be subject to fines or the utility may disconnect your home

I don't know what else to say. I've already agreed with you that the possibility is remote. I wouldn't be afraid to do it myself. But this is a public forum that anyone can read, and anyone contains a whole lot of pure idiots. I cannot publicly condone this.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Sorry. Few things iritate me as much as Electrically based forums on here. Hardly, (I would vote) any other topics with as much misinformation. Just vague things, people with little or no experience, heard, beleive and repeat.

The wording of "possible" fines, is about the weakest of such warnings I have seen. Like, smoking in an aircraft lavatory, seems to have a mandatory death penalty by comparison. lol

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have no issue at all with people backfeeding their electrical systems at all. Just not backfeeding the lines. If you don't know what you are doing, are feeble in the head, or have others around that might mess up this process, DON'T DO IT. That's all I would have to say. Not going to start talking of killing or injuring people.

 

[strantor]

Sorry. Few things iritate me as much as Electrically based forums on here. Hardly, (I would vote) any other topics with as much misinformation. Just vague things, people with little or no experience, heard, beleive and repeat.

The wording of "possible" fines, is about the weakest of such warnings I have seen. Like, smoking in an aircraft lavatory, seems to have a mandatory death penalty by comparison. lol

I feel that, totally agree. It sucks actually knowing what you're talking about on the internet. Everyone is an expert and there is no way for those looking to learn, to know who to listen to. I imagine the same is true in every technical field; mechanics, medical (must be especially frustrating in those forums), etc. I checked into a fitness forum once to learn a bit about weightlifting. Those threads were one of the most heavily (ruthlessly) debated topics I've ever seen. "Bros" vs "fitness experts"

 

[Industrial Toys]

If I have little experience in something, I say so. I think it's more important to know what you don't know or might not know anything about about. Reminds me of my Lady friend. Always chiming in, (yes trying to be helpful) about things she knows nothing about, and has no interest in learning. Best one ever. Something wouldn't start. Maybe the Rad is flooded!

 

[grsthegreat]

Adjust my expectations? What are you referring to, price?
Could you give me an idea of what an electrical contractor might charge?
Maybe I will duct tape a drop cord to the wall....not. :laughing:

i install these all the time. Usually in the $350 price range.

 

[strantor]

If I have little experience in something, I say so. I think it's more important to know what you don't know or might not know anything about about.

Same here! If only everyone could get on the same page.