Canadian Farm Kid, Tractor Operator has Charges Dropped

[Industrial Toys]

Many bad things happen when one stupid thing colides with another stupid thing.

But Violence against this kid, just seems over the top. Cops have all the (paid) time in the world, as the aftermath illustrates. Why the hurry to escalate the violence so quickly?

My better solution. Talk to the kid, as in a two way conversation, answer the kids questions, as another officer goes to get his high power rifle in case the kid tries to mow anyone down.

 

[ovrszd]

He didn't stop were it was unsafe, I can fully understand that I have driven thru spots that I could drive thru working but I wouldn't stop for ground conditions.
He admitted that he didn't jump to do thier bidding as he was cooling the tractor down,
he also said that he couldn't hear them clearly over the tractor and that the masks they wore were muffling their voices.
He refused a breath test, good for him, public safety my a**, public harassment more like it.
No one has to be in charge, that was an incident were they were power tripping pure and simple.
Law enforcement does not have to be abusive as it seems to have become.

If he was drunk, escaped the road check, then ran into your family driving down the road and killed your wife what would be your thoughts?

The Farmer declared his feelings in the first few seconds of the video when he said he has no respect for LEO. He displayed that clearly that day.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I was thinking of the saying, I may have been born yesterday, but I wasn't born last night. I think this kid was.

 

[ovrszd]

Many bad things happen when one stupid thing colides with another stupid thing.

But Violence against this kid, just seems over the top. Cops have all the (paid) time in the world, as the aftermath illustrates. Why the hurry to escalate the violence so quickly?

My better solution. Talk to the kid, as in a two way conversation, answer the kids questions, as another officer goes to get his high power rifle in case the kid tries to mow anyone down.

He's not a kid. He's a Farmer operating Farm equipment on a public roadway. A kid would have not gotten into this situation. A kid would have got in line and obeyed the LEOs.

 

[ovrszd]

I was thinking of the saying, I may have been born yesterday, but I wasn't born last night. I think this kid was.

Yeah, could be. Again I say, he's not a kid. Nothing he did during this altercation would be considered kid like.

 

[LouNY]

Yeah, could be. Again I say, he's not a kid. Nothing he did during this altercation would be considered kid like.

And everything the canadian cops did was over kill, bullying and power tripping because he didn't tow their line.

 

[ovrszd]

And everything the canadian cops did was over kill, bullying and power tripping because he didn't tow their line.

Their treatment of him on the ground was definitely over kill. The act of getting him to stop and exit from the tractor was not. It was done in the manner his behavior dictated.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I am still not undertanding the story. The video clearly shows the tractor on the roadway, yet I thought he left the roadway to get into his field. Did he drive around the "roadblock" and back onto the road? That would get the attention of most cops, tractor or not.

To me, his demeanor and appearance is that of a kid.

 

[Diggin It]

A... I oppose ALL checkpoints. Bar none.

B... While they were focused on this kid on his tractor, how many DUI or impaired drivers in motor vehicles passed?

C ... How many officers were at this one location interfering with traffic instead of being scattered out on patrol in trouble areas?

 

[Industrial Toys]

What did this little circus cost the Taxpayer?

Reminds me of two country friends that went to the BIG CITY with wads of cash in their pockets to go to an auction and ended up in the back of Police cars, in a temporary overblown situation. All started when apparently my friend took off from a light too quickly in his Diesel FORD. I think got charged with Dangerous Driving in the end. He and his Dad drove Transport trucks. Never known the guy to drive DANGEROUS!

 

[ovrszd]

A... I oppose ALL checkpoints. Bar none.

B... While they were focused on this kid on his tractor, how many DUI or impaired drivers in motor vehicles passed?

C ... How many officers were at this one location interfering with traffic instead of being scattered out on patrol in trouble areas?

A... Have their place.

B... None. The other driver's obeyed the setup and stopped.

C... How ever many it takes to control the situation. In this instance it took several.

 

[ovrszd]

What did this little circus cost the Taxpayer?

Reminds me of two country friends that went to the BIG CITY with wads of cash in their pockets to go to an auction and ended up in the back of Police cars, in a temporary overblown situation. All started when apparently my friend took off from a light too quickly in his Diesel FORD. I think got charged with Dangerous Driving in the end. He and his Dad drove Transport trucks. Never known the guy to drive DANGEROUS!

Much, much more than it would have cost had the Farmer got in line and obeyed the LEOs.

Why would a respectable Commercial Truck Driver hotrod his Diesel FORD in the BIG CITY?

 

[AWSubie]

Sounds like Canada could use some advice from their southern neighbor about organizing a revolution against the “Crown”.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Not sure he did. But may have been late for the auction and gotten pisssed off the one way street scheme of Hamilton Ontario. You have to drive five miles this way to go back two miles that way.

 

[MossRoad]

I rewatched the part of the video in which the farmer told his story. He volunteered several instances in the story where he was wrong and in violation of those in charge of the situation. I'm confident he also sugar coated his responses to the LEOs in charge.

In the beginning he said he came upon stopped vehicles and simply pulled onto the shoulder and kept going.

He then said he realized it was a controlled traffic stop by LEO. He kept going.

In one segment he said he didn't stop when told to because it was steep right there and wasn't safe. But if was safe enough to drive past the vehicles and the LEOs.

He admitted he only stopped because LEOs were chasing him on foot and beating on the tractor fenders and doors and yelling to stop.

He admitted they told him to exit the tractor several times and he refused saying he needed to let the tractor cool down first.

He admitted he refused to take a breath test.

He admitted he only exited the tractor when they dragged him out.

Again I say, someone has to be in charge. Who should it have been in this situation? The Farmer? Or the LEOs?

Switch 'tractor' to 'automobile' and I'd expect a very bad outcome if I did all that myself.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I mentioned before about the guy close to here that went around a sobriety checkpoint with his snowmobile. Cop jumped in his car and mowed him down! That whole case, was kept hush/hush as are so many cases.

 

[fried1765]

He didn't stop were it was unsafe, I can fully understand that I have driven thru spots that I could drive thru working but I wouldn't stop for ground conditions.
He admitted that he didn't jump to do thier bidding as he was cooling the tractor down,
he also said that he couldn't hear them clearly over the tractor and that the masks they wore were muffling their voices.
He refused a breath test, good for him, public safety my a**, public harassment more like it.
No one has to be in charge, that was an incident were they were power tripping pure and simple.
Law enforcement does not have to be abusive as it seems to have become.

You are 100% correct !!!!

 

[Industrial Toys]

That's a pretty complex tractor. I'm quite certain it can be stopped, and the driver can get out and ask what's going on, without "shutting it off" THAT is (highly) suspicious if you ask me.