Skidding Logs with tractor.

[Liquidsilver]

Anyone know where this load was attached?

8N Ford tractor rolls over backwards - YouTube

Bruce

As much as I can see in the video, it looks like it was above the axle. Hope he's okay.

 

[bearthebruce]

and no ROPS.. I don't ever operate our tractor without the ROPS up and me belted in. Call me a wimp if you will but I don't feel safe any other way.

Logs I have skidded are lifted with the 3ph. Until I read this thread, I was not aware of the possibility of going over backward.. never thought about it. I'll make sure when dragging a log to watch the trail and keep the front of the log up as high as I can get it.

 

[Deere Dude]

I guess it also has to do with reaction time and whether a person just freaks out at the first hint of something going wrong. Ideally, appropriate reaction should just be second nature.
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That is one of the reasons I bought a HST instead of a gear/clutch type tractor. The front comes up on a HST you just take your hands and feet off controls and everything goes static. With gear driven tractors you need to make a positive action in an emergency to stop the tractor.

 

[CoyPatton]

and no ROPS.. I don't ever operate our tractor without the ROPS up and me belted in. Call me a wimp if you will but I don't feel safe any other way.

Logs I have skidded are lifted with the 3ph. Until I read this thread, I was not aware of the possibility of going over backward.. never thought about it. I'll make sure when dragging a log to watch the trail and keep the front of the log up as high as I can get it.

Higher is not better. When you increase height greater than needed, you decrease the safety factor of how quickly the weight of the log is removed from a downward pull on your tractor.
If your tractor has 8” of ground clearance, once the bottom of the log is that high, you can nothing and possibly increase the risk of raising the front end.
Pulling from a lower point was just taught to us from early on working on a farm.
Take a lesson from guys that tow stuff for a living, wrecker services! They always hook up from the lowest point available to tow and lift just what is necessary to have clearance for road obstacles and bounce.

 

[bearthebruce]

Higher is not better. When you increase height greater than needed, you decrease the safety factor of how quickly the weight of the log is removed from a downward pull on your tractor.
If your tractor has 8” of ground clearance, once the bottom of the log is that high, you can nothing and possibly increase the risk of raising the front end.
Pulling from a lower point was just taught to us from early on working on a farm.
Take a lesson from guys that tow stuff for a living, wrecker services! They always hook up from the lowest point available to tow and lift just what is necessary to have clearance for road obstacles and bounce.

Thank you @CoyPatton. So keeping the log low yet off the ground is the idea.. 6 to 8" being sufficient. Lesson filed and hopefully fully learned.

Appreciate your correction of what I have done that is unsafe. Still learning..

 

[Sawyer Rob]

That is one of the reasons I bought a HST instead of a gear/clutch type tractor. The front comes up on a HST you just take your hands and feet off controls and everything goes static. With gear driven tractors you need to make a positive action in an emergency to stop the tractor.

You have to take your foot off the pedal and I'm not sure what you take your hands off??

With a gear tractor I can just push in the clutch, no difference at all, it's all in what you are use to.

Truth is, I don't push in the clutch, I use the foot throttle and let up on that, also I keep my hand on the 3 point lever, and I have never had one problem, not one.

SR

 

[Deere Dude]

You have to take your foot off the pedal and I'm not sure what you take your hands off??

With a gear tractor I can just push in the clutch, no difference at all, it's all in what you are use to.

Truth is, I don't push in the clutch, I use the foot throttle and let up on that, also I keep my hand on the 3 point lever, and I have never had one problem, not one.

SR

More specifically, i was talking about pulling with the loader and having the rear flip up, but the actions would be the same regardless.

 

[bearthebruce]

You have to take your foot off the pedal and I'm not sure what you take your hands off??

With a gear tractor I can just push in the clutch, no difference at all, it's all in what you are use to.

Truth is, I don't push in the clutch, I use the foot throttle and let up on that, also I keep my hand on the 3 point lever, and I have never had one problem, not one.

SR

I operate our gear tractor the same... foot on the foot throttle, other foot near the clutch ready to hit it.. hand on the 3ph lever .. moving slowly. I thought I did all those things being a newbie wimp who is unwilling to take risks.. @Sawyer Rob, thanks for giving me more confidence! I have read so many of your posts that I know you have been doing tractor "things" for a lot of years. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I operate our gear tractor the same... foot on the foot throttle, other foot near the clutch ready to hit it.. hand on the 3ph lever .. moving slowly. I thought I did all those things being a newbie wimp who is unwilling to take risks.. @Sawyer Rob, thanks for giving me more confidence! I have read so many of your posts that I know you have been doing tractor "things" for a lot of years. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

Yer welcome, BUT, maybe I'm just an "experienced wimp"?? lol

SR

 

[Industrial Toys]

I think I would feel safer with a clutch. I bet my foot would be on that in less than a quarter of a second. Of course it helps if you are anticipating possible trouble.