Want to buy a dump trailer, kinda torn here.

[CADplans]

I bought my 10' dump trailer when i bought my '99 Silverado 2500.
The trailer is rated 10K gross weight.

I had to buy new receiver hitch tubes when I bought my '18 Silverado 2500,,
the new truck uses 2 1/2" tube, instead of 2" ,, it is quite a bit more heavy duty,,

Both trucks are 6.0, both have 4.10 axles. both are snow plow upgraded trucks.
(I have never had a snow plow,, that is just the way the trucks came)

I would not even bat an eye at hauling a 7 ton load in my dump trailer with either truck.
I have had the trailer heaped up loaded with creek rock, so , I would guess that was 7 tons.

 

[Hay Dude]

A class B with air brakes, but for personal use I didn’t think it mattered.

I havent seen outside of a large RV, where someone can do something requiring a class A getting an exemption for personal use.
Don’t think it’s a matter of personal use, but a matter of training/safety

 

[Bearsixty7]

Here in Texas You can derate a trailer at the DMV if you want, it doesn't matter what the manufacturer rates it at.
I have a 20' cargo/box trailer I had made with 5K axles and 16" wheels & tires as I hate 3500lb axles and 15" tires for trailers.
The Manufacturer rated the trailer at 10,400 and if the GVWR is over 10K the annual registration almost doubles.
I will never be over 9K total so I just had them register it for 9990 and save about $80 annually.

This way I have a trailer strong enough for anything I'll haul in it yet it doesn't cost any more to register.

 

[Jackstack76]

I bought my 10' dump trailer when i bought my '99 Silverado 2500.
The trailer is rated 10K gross weight.

I had to buy new receiver hitch tubes when I bought my '18 Silverado 2500,,
the new truck uses 2 1/2" tube, instead of 2" ,, it is quite a bit more heavy duty,,

Both trucks are 6.0, both have 4.10 axles. both are snow plow upgraded trucks.
(I have never had a snow plow,, that is just the way the trucks came)

I would not even bat an eye at hauling a 7 ton load in my dump trailer with either truck.
I have had the trailer heaped up loaded with creek rock, so , I would guess that was 7 tons.

Nice! My 2017 came with the 2-1/2 inch reciver but there’s a sleeve in it for 2 inch, just hkw it came.

 

[Jackstack76]

I havent seen outside of a large RV, where someone can do something requiring a class A getting an exemption for personal use.
Don’t think it’s a matter of personal use, but a matter of training/safety

I see a lot of people towing these massive fifth wheels, you know most of them don’t have a CDL

 

[Hay Dude]

I see a lot of people towing these massive fifth wheels, you know most of them don’t have a CDL

Right, I said “outside of a large RV”.

 

[bdog]

Depending on your state you may not need a CDL but in most states you need a class A license (commercial or non commercial depending on circumstances) to drive a vehicle with a combined GVWR over 26k with a trailer over 10k GVWR. Some states don’t offer non commercial licenses so if you are over the threshold you have to get a CDL.

Either way in the vast majority of states if not all you can’t just drive a combo over 26k without some sort of upgraded license. In the eyes of the law once you cross 26k you are treated exactly the same as an 18 wheeler. Now there some exemptions such as military vehicles, RVs, firefighters, and farm use but the farm use definition is pretty strict and refers to only hauling livestock and commodities from your farm to market. Each state is a little different but definitely look into the refs before buying something over 26k.

Also with the DOT it is guilty until proven innocent. If you are trying to use some sort of non commercial exemption from having a DOT number, etc they will try every way possible to wrap you up in their commercial net. I have heard of team ropers deemed commercial hauling their horses to rodeos because they can win money at the rodeo.

 

[Jackstack76]

Here in Texas You can derate a trailer at the DMV if you want, it doesn't matter what the manufacturer rates it at.
I have a 20' cargo/box trailer I had made with 5K axles and 16" wheels & tires as I hate 3500lb axles and 15" tires for trailers.
The Manufacturer rated the trailer at 10,400 and if the GVWR is over 10K the annual registration almost doubles.
I will never be over 9K total so I just had them register it for 9990 and save about $80 annually.

This way I have a trailer strong enough for anything I'll haul in it yet it doesn't coat any more to register.

I did the same thing with my 20 foot electric tilt, two 5200 pound axels but de rated it a hair.

 

[Jackstack76]

Depending on your state you may not need a CDL but in most states you need a class A license (commercial or non commercial depending on circumstances) to drive a vehicle with a combined GVWR over 26k with a trailer over 10k GVWR. Some states don’t offer non commercial licenses so if you are over the threshold you have to get a CDL.

Either way in the vast majority of states if not all you can’t just drive a combo over 26k without some sort of upgraded license. In the eyes of the law once you cross 26k you are treated exactly the same as an 18 wheeler. Now there some exemptions such as military vehicles, RVs, firefighters, and farm use but the farm use definition is pretty strict and refers to only hauling livestock and commodities from your farm to market. Each state is a little different but definitely look into the refs before buying something over 26k.

Also with the DOT it is guilty until proven innocent. If you are trying to use some sort of non commercial exemption from having a DOT number, etc they will try every way possible to wrap you up in their commercial net. I have heard of team ropers deemed commercial hauling their horses to rodeos because they can win money at the rodeo.

Well if I have to upgrade down the road so be it, already have a class b and airbrakes for work.

 

[Hay Dude]

Well if I have to upgrade down the road so be it, already have a class b and airbrakes for work.

But you’ll need a class A
Class B with air brakes is for straight truck with air brakes