Earth's Hottest Month

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   / Earth's Hottest Month #111  
I'm honestly surprised it's lasted this long.

Some truths are not tolerated here.

In the words of Jack Nicholson ”you can’t handle the truth!”
 
   / Earth's Hottest Month #116  
Kevin.... this is an easy one. A very easy one. You could have just searched it yourself.

HEAT kills many, many, many times more humans than cold. In a cold climate, there is still a growing season for food production, and you can easily keep warm all winter. In a baked, dry, hot environment, people cannot cool off, cannot grow food well, cannot find enough water.

It's really pretty basic chemistry and physics to measure and understand that humans are now taking enough fossil fuels out of the ground and burning them to substantially alter the CO2 concentration in our atmosphere, which has a very logical and proven effect on heat retention in the oceans and air. What is not proven, is exactly how much of our recent warming and climate shifts are due to our human contribution. It is simply illogical to say it has had no effect, but any good scientist will acknowledge that greater, natural trends could also be underway.

Nonetheless, virtually the entire global scientific community now overwhelmingly agrees that humans are contributing heavily to the real climate changes observed. So what are you deniers and skeptics really trying to win here? Avoiding guilt for your personal contributions?

Green energy and reasonable regulation of industry does not kill jobs. It just changes them, with new opportunities arising. If you are willing to chance torching the entire earth because you're simply afraid of change, or just want your political tribe to win, well that's a pretty sad critique on human nature. We have to make this shift in energy use together, so please don't make the majority drag you along so reluctantly.
Right off CNN.

Couple of questions:

1. If we determined the climate was indeed changing, but, it was independent of human activity, would that be ok and accepted, or would we try to manage it?

2. On the outside chance the group of nearly everyone that overwhelmingly agrees that we are killing ourselves is wrong, will they take accountability for the tremendous debt they have created? In short, can we get R12 back if it didn't turn out to eat the ozone? Could we get the government out of health care if it somehow didn't bend the cost curve and save us all a couple a grand a year, or if the unthinkable happened and we could keep our doctor of choice?

"Green jobs" do not translate 1 to 1 for old shitty "black jobs".

Just for the record, I love technology, when someone builds something new and useful, or improves something by an order of magnitude, I buy it, and I hope they are wealthy.

I hate government debt, and government exerting undue influence on private industry.

e.g. If Elon (see bond villain) builds a car that is preferred over cars currently on the market, and can do it at a price point that people buy his car, then ford should go broke for being lazy.

However, to use our tax dollars to unnaturally incent people to buy cars from the bond villain, and disrupt a functional segment of our economy is unconscionable.

You could be right about the science of CO2. I am absolutely correct about the motives of the people that profess to solve it.

Carbon credits will not buy Florida 1 additional day above sea level.......

Best,

ed
 
   / Earth's Hottest Month #117  
As I've said in the past, a global economy requires a level playing field. Any country we buy from should follow similar environmental restrictions, their agriculture shouldn't be allowed to use any pesticides which are banned here; they should have to follow the same civil rights laws which apply to this country. Otherwise they shouldn't be allowed to import to this country.
This is solid, or we should use financial objects like tariffs to flatten the field. Your point is probably the single largest reason we compete so poorly with China. Well said.

Best,

ed
 
   / Earth's Hottest Month #119  
In order of expendability ( most to least ):

TBN threads
Humans
Remainder of known life forms
Earth.
LOL as a human I might put us a little closer to the bottom. In fact, if earth was gone, and my great grand kids lived on a Mars, I would probably be happier than great grand kids gone, and earth covered in ice but still here.............

Best,

ed
 
   / Earth's Hottest Month #120  
Ok, chill, chill. It is easy to google this and find conclusive data either way, if you don't want to do any critical thinking about it. But please do note:

The lancet study did not control for the seasonal cycle in death rates; deaths are always higher in winter, due to influenza and other non-weather-related factors.

Obviously a homeless person living on the street is likely to die due to cold weather, which is a large number of their counted deaths. But any regular person living inside a home should be able to stay warm. Conversely, especially in areas without widespread air conditioning, heat is unescapable. The late june heat wave this year in the northwest killed ~600 people in British Columbia, ~450 in Washington, and ~160 in Oregon. Tell me the last time you heard about a cold-snap racking up deaths like that? (they don't) And if the planet is getting warmer (confirmed), which type of temperature death do you expect to be more prevalent?
It seems like you just proved the point for the other side. If anything, heat should kill more people but it doesn't, by a factor of 20. The examples you gave of heat deaths are both anecdotal and exceedingly rare.

Hay Dude is 100% right. The system is mostly closed and self correcting. Increases in CO2 lead to increased plant life which decreases CO2 and increases O2. Don't confuse your Hollywood image of hot to mean desert. The historical record and common sense both show that increased global temps would lead to more global free moisture. Anyone who lives in cold climates can tell you about how much drier it is in winter when the moisture is frozen. Think an increase in rainforests and O2.

Most of the scientists who agree on this climate change hoax are using the same data that was proven to be manipulated years ago. You cannot simply travel back in time to collect real data.

I am sorry that you and others have been the pawns of people who have goals in mind that have nothing to do with climate and everything to do with power.
 
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