Earth's Hottest Month

[MossRoad]

Thanks!

 

[MossRoad]

Im almost 100% agreement with that.
Id like to see a shift on making power generation sources clean up their act FIRST, then lets see how the environment does, rather than make everyone go EV and recharge them with the same polluting power plants.
Make much more sense.

What the heck is the problem with nuclear power plants and cleaner burning natural gas plants getting built?

I don't think there's such a thing as 'clean coal'. There's 'cleaner than it used to be coal'. But I think coal should go away as a source for electricity. It's still needed for other things, but we could do way better with nuclear.

And I agree that forcing EVs on people isn't such a great idea, and I'm in agreement with you on the topic of affordability to people of lower incomes. Heck, we can afford new vehicles, we just find it economically foolish to buy them.

When I have $7000 total wrapped up in a 1993 Suburban that I bought 14 years ago, it ends up being $500 per year for transportation.

We spent the money on other things that meant more to us.

When EVs fall into that price category, I'll start looking at them.

 

[Hay Dude]

I don't think there's such a thing as 'clean coal'. There's 'cleaner than it used to be coal'. But I think coal should go away as a source for electricity. It's still needed for other things, but we could do way better with nuclear.

And I agree that forcing EVs on people isn't such a great idea, and I'm in agreement with you on the topic of affordability to people of lower incomes. Heck, we can afford new vehicles, we just find it economically foolish to buy them.

When I have $7000 total wrapped up in a 1993 Suburban that I bought 14 years ago, it ends up being $500 per year for transportation.

We spent the money on other things that meant more to us.

When EVs fall into that price category, I'll start looking at them.

I only referred to "cleaner burning natural gas", not "clean coal".

 

[Jstpssng]

I partially agree that its sad that desert was turned to farmland, but what are we supposed to eat?
Theres 300+ million people in this country alone. We have to have food to survive. That may be "sad" to you, but its a necessity for survival.
Maybe another viewpoint, one would say "its sad theres so many people in LA and San Fran wasting so much water which could be used to grow food"???
California IS the most populous state. Maybe some of the more whiny ones complaining about heat and drought could move to Alaska? Theres lots of room there for people and its much cooler and more rainy.
Yet they stay in CA, consuming water and food and complaining 24/7 about heat, fires, and water shortages.

I'm glad to hear somebody else finally saying that. We laugh at California and their laws, yet our diet would be a lot more boring if not for their agriculture. Perhaps if people stopped eating so much, farmers wouldn't need so much water!
When most of us hear the word "desert" we think of dry sand and Arabia type climates. Yet farmland wouldn't be as productive on the west coast if there weren't nutrients in their soil.

 

[Hay Dude]

I'm glad to hear somebody else finally saying that. We laugh at California and their laws, yet our diet would be a lot more boring if not for their agriculture. Perhaps if people stopped eating so much, farmers wouldn't need so much water!
When most of us hear the word "desert" we think of dry sand and Arabia type climates. Yet farmland wouldn't be as productive on the west coast if there weren't nutrients in their soil.

Adding to the problem the millions of new voters, I mean consumers/eaters coming in over the southern border each year, supposedly "climate refugees" LOL.
If the climate here in the US is such a mess, why would they come here?

 

[MossRoad]

It takes 3.2 gallons of water to grow one California almond. One.

Yikes!

Water-indexed benefits and impacts of California almonds

California almonds have been the focus of recent media scrutiny because of the large amount of water required to grow individual nuts and, by extensio…

www.sciencedirect.com

Well, there's opposing views to that, of course. They cite that the tree is using the water, not the almond itself. That's kinda like saying you don't have to count the water a cow drinks or the food it eats to produce a gallon of milk.

Anywho, while California feeds a huge portion of the nation, it's at quite a cost to the natural resources available.

 

[MossRoad]

Adding to the problem the millions of new voters, I mean consumers/eaters coming in over the southern border each year, supposedly "climate refugees" LOL.
If the climate here in the US is such a mess, why would they come here?

Why would they come here?

Because of people like you and me who have a much easier and comfortable living. Pretty compelling.

 

[MossRoad]

My wife's grandpa on her mom's side was born in Michigan in 1912. When he was a teenager, his family packed up and moved back to Hungary. He hated it. Here, he had a motorcycle. There, he had to borrow a neighbor's horse. As soon as he was able, he moved back to Michigan, then to South Bend, got a job at Studebaker, bought another motorcycle, got married, etc.

Here's better than there.

 

[ultrarunner]

I don't think it is universal...

Over the years 25 years I have hosted or helped a number of Austrian Au Pairs and kids from friends in Germany/Austria...

Not a single one has stayed or had the desire to make California home...

They all had fantastic times and made lasting friendships but none found a new home... same for the Swiss young people.

 

[arto98607]

It takes 3.2 gallons of water to grow one California almond. One.

Yikes!

Well, there's opposing views to that, of course. They cite that the tree is using the water, not the almond itself. That's kinda like saying you don't have to count the water a cow drinks or the food it eats to produce a gallon of milk.

Anywho, while California feeds a huge portion of the nation, it's at quite a cost to the natural resources available.

Sure that's lot of water, but the water goes around and around - it's not being wasted.

It comes back as rain somewhere one day....