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[Torvy]

So we must allow the entire world free entrance into our country bringing drugs, terrorism, and disease to repay sins of the past-forever.
Yep! Theres a great way to self loathe.
Sign me UP!

Interestingly, the outrage at the past sins of the US are both overblown and under blown at the same time. Presentism is a thing.

 

[Hay Dude]

Interestingly, the outrage at the past sins of the US are both overblown and under blown at the same time. Presentism is a thing.

Like I said, we've more than made up for that. If it wasnt for people like my Great uncle Chet, shot down piloting a B-17 over France, then joining the French resistance, one of the many freeing the world from ****** & the Japanese Empire, we'd either be speaking German or Japanese. And that happened a lot more recently than the taking of Texas, AZ, etc.
Yet some here still want us punished.
Some people cant stop hating themselves and/or this country until this country itself is torn to shreds and destroyed.
Its SICK and its unecessary, but it fills their self hating emotion tank with the fuel they need to sustain their miserable lives.

 

[Hay Dude]

Why dont we just grow things in areas where there is adequate natural irrigation? CA needs to stop trying to control nature and sending water to places it was never naturally meant to be. They are getting bit in the arse for the arrogance right now. Heck its a lesson for every state.

Because the government told us all to move to California 150 years ago and farm. The people listen, take tremendous risk and do it, now they want to take away their farms.
Sounds like a great plan!

 

[Torvy]

Taking land was normal until recently. The Aztecs and Mayans took land from others, too.

 

[Hay Dude]

Everyone on this continent is an immigrant or descended from one. It's time we stopped arguing about our immigration system and started working toward fixing it.

You first, but let me ask a question:
Do we "fix" the problem by:
1. Having a secure border and letting people who want to come here through an organized, safe, orderly system where people are screened? (BTW we let about 1 million immigrants in now per year legally-more than any country in the world)
or
2. Just let anyone who wants to come here run through the border bringing phentanyl, heroin and other drugs, carrying diseases, weapons and terrorism, like we have now.

 

[ultrarunner]

Consuming water you would never have if it wasnt for the government foolishly creating damns/reservoirs to try and control it…then allowing uncontrolled growth of cities and irrigation of arid land repurposed to farm. Then a drought comes along for a few years and puts everything in jeopardy.

Your water travels 160 miles to get to you (Hetch Hetchy Reservoir dependent on rain and Sierra Nevada snow melt ). At least 85% of it does.

I mean come on. At some point the geniuses have to realize the water will run out if we continue to pack people in the Bay Area? The Dam was built in 1938, population about 1.5 mil in the Bay Area. Now over 7 million.

TLDR. The problem isnt how much each household uses. It’s the # of households.

The population of San Francisco is in decline

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article251245999.html

... San Francisco water is owned by San Francisco and the reason for distance is for quality.... unlike Delta water aka Sacramento River with AG run off.

I realize everyone has opinions but 41 gallons per day for SF with a declining population is hardly excessive...

 

[Jstpssng]

You first, but let me ask a question:
Do we "fix" the problem by:
1. Having a secure border and letting people who want to come here through an organized, safe, orderly system where people are screened? (BTW we let about 1 million immigrants in now per year legally-more than any country in the world)
or
2. Just let anyone who wants to come here run through the border bringing phentanyl, heroin and other drugs, carrying diseases, weapons and terrorism, like we have now.

I'll pick #1, of course. First though, we need to admit that we have a problem and stop the partisan non compromising ways. An elected official works for every voter in his district, not just his political party.

The bottom line is that we NEED immigrants coming in; especially since so many of our current citizens choose not to work. Somebody has to be a construction worker, doctor or nurse.
There's a health care shortage as it is, which is only getting worse.

 

[plowhog]

The bottom line is that we NEED immigrants coming in ... Somebody has to be a construction worker, doctor or nurse.

I've seen pictures of caravans of people walking to the USA. I've yet to see any migrant who is wearing a stethoscope.

 

[Hay Dude]

I'll pick #1, of course. First though, we need to admit that we have a problem and stop the partisan non compromising ways. An elected official works for every voter in his district, not just his political party.

The bottom line is that we NEED immigrants coming in; especially since so many of our current citizens choose not to work. Somebody has to be a construction worker, doctor or nurse.
There's a health care shortage as it is, which is only getting worse.

Is 1 MILLION legal immigrants per year enough?
IMO, we have way more than enough people to do all the jobs they do. The problem is, these intellectuals have taught everyone that those jobs are sub human, not honorable or not anything they should do.
THAT is the problem. We don’t need immigrants as much as we need to rethink the honor of work at all levels.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Why dont we just grow things in areas where there is adequate natural irrigation? CA needs to stop trying to control nature and sending water to places it was never naturally meant to be. They are getting bit in the arse for the arrogance right now. Heck its a lesson for every state.

Las Vegas is growing exponentially with no water source, Phoenix as well; Miami... ditto, but their problem is rising sea levels. Doesn't make much sense, does it?