COVID19 bull

[Citydude]

There is a severe need for civics being taught in this country again.

Good for you Lou for exercising your lawful right.

 

[RandyT]

I'm looking at it from the other side of the coin. Hospitals here are getting overwhelmed with Covid patients, and around 90% of those are unvaccinated. Meanwhile doctors are being told to put surgeries on hold because there aren't enough support personnel.
It's my understanding that vaccinations don't stop the disease; but they do lessen the severity.

The other question is how many of those unvaccinated have either had 1 jab or are less than 14 days after their second jab. Because those also get counted as unvaccinated.

 

[SgtSluggo]

The other question is how many of those unvaccinated have either had 1 jab or are less than 14 days after their second jab. Because those also get counted as unvaccinated.

Our hospital released those numbers at one time and it was a very small number. I think the numbers of admitted patients were something like 85% unvaccinated, 5% partially vaccinated, and 10% vaccinated

 

[locknut]

Interesting article on the so-called vaccine.

Well, Duh. This Is Why It Was Stupid

<p>I warned everyone.</p><p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/health/uk-scientists-covid-variant-beat-vaccines-intl/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Now even CNN is on

market-ticker.org

 

[the old grind]

Well that's putting it all in a nutshell. ("Vaccines, you're fired!")

btw, When we hear of vaccinated folks still getting Covid symptoms IMO it's too easy to hang the bird on the meds. Do those numbers include how many were in there 30s or 50s, had hereditary or age-related afflictions, etc. Is everyone exposed presumed to be in excellent health, well nourished, not taking any meds, getting healthy exercise.. keeping BP, weight & cholesterol in check w/no stress or side effects ever ...?

 

[Citydude]

Well that's putting it all in a nutshell. ("Vaccines, you're fired!")

btw, When we hear of vaccinated folks still getting Covid symptoms IMO it's too easy to hang the bird on the meds. Do those numbers include how many were in there 30s or 50s, had hereditary or age-related afflictions, etc. Is everyone exposed presumed to be in excellent health, well nourished, not taking any meds, getting healthy exercise.. keeping BP, weight & cholesterol in check w/no stress or side effects ever ...?

The same could be the deaths from covid. Who figging knows the truth..,,

 

[ruffdog]

Interesting article on the so-called vaccine.

Wrote by a financial blogger/ political activist....ok.

It seems he got a few facts wrong:

Vaccines Need Not Completely Stop COVID Transmission to Curb the Pandemic

 

[shooterdon]

I have lost all trust in the "experts" on this. The "science and data" have been manipulated and corrupted.

I have both shots...not sure I will take the booster.

Follow the money....the drug companies are making billions on this.

 

[rswyan]

Any power not granted is reserved for the people.

If you are referring to the 10th Amendment, the actual text is:

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

So if that is what you’re referring to, there is no prohibition on that basis.

Also any valid "law" has to be passed by the legislature before it gets to the governor.

The bill number was S7919:

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/s7919

Fact Check: New York Governor does have the authority to implement coronavirus restrictions

State Emergency Authorities to Address COVID-19

 

[newbury]

Of course, we should honor any valid medical or religious exemption. Valid to mean by your current doctor treating your condition and any religion that has publicly stated its validity. Internet practitioners offering exemption in exchange for contribution/donation/fee not acceptable.

Along those lines the exemption should be based on PREVIOUS and ESTABLISHED religious/medical connections/conditions.
To many people can all of a sudden develop bone spurs.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics

Describe what the situation was in Mississippi. People would go into the hospital ICU and be put on ventilators, their relative would describe their inability to breath. Death would be listed as anything but C-19.
ICU beds were often negative. And that's one stat that doesn't lie.

If I'm traveling on a long road trip and need to stay overnight and there are NO hotel beds available it's a pain to sleep in the car. But I'll probably live if I park in a safe area.

My lovely wife had two strokes in the spring of 2009, the second nearly fatal. For about a week in the excellent ICU she could barely move her right side. She's fully recovered. But after about 4 days in the ICU they were talking to me about funeral plans. I don't want to be in the situation where there is no room at the ICU if I can plan around it.

The New York Times has a report/webpage showing ICU beds available. linky
In my area in Northern Virginia at Inova Alexandria and Mount Vernon Hospitals (the two hospitals nearest me) they are reporting I.C.U. occupancy at 57% and 70% with 30 beds available, 33 beds occupied by Covid cases. In my area of Mississippi, Tupelo, they are reporting 34 beds total, 0 available. There is no room at the ICU. Reportedly all occupied by Covid cases.

I really don't care much if those beds are occupied by stroke victims or Covid victims, but if we can't get in we can't get in. Sleeping in the car is NOT an option.