Ordered a 2022 Ram 2500

[Hay Dude]

Mine is in a Ford. I thought about buying a cab and chassis with the specs I wanted but I’d have probably spent 20k to get the bed I wanted.

Buying trucks is impossible now for the working stiff.
New is over the top and used, if you can find one, are insanely overpriced

 

[4570Man]

Back in the 90’s, Ford was actually smart enough to offer the 5.9L Cummins AND the 8.3L Cummins in their medium trucks and the 8.3L in their heavy trucks (along with bigger CATs)
Heres an L9000 with an 8.3 Cummins.

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/trucks/for-sale/205435015/1997-ford-l9000

I wanted a single axel but I’ve seen some single axel 9000s with 8.3s or m11s or 3408 cats. But I’ve never seen a single axel 9000 with a bed I liked.

 

[Hay Dude]

I wanted a single axel but I’ve seen some single axel 9000s with 8.3s or m11s or 3408 cats. But I’ve never seen a single axel 9000 with a bed I liked.

If the deal is good, remove the bed and sell it. Some body companies will give you some $ on a trade in, too.

 

[4570Man]

If the deal is good, remove the bed and sell it. Some body companies will give you some $ on a trade in, too.

I could’ve done that but I’d probably end up having to stretch the frame too. I ended up settling for a 5.9 with a 6 speed transmission which wasn’t the power option I wanted but the truck checked every other thing I wanted. Now I want a single axel roll off truck. Rather or not I get one for what I want to pay is looking doubtful.

 

[ovrszd]

I think the difference is in the weights I pull compared to you. I need the strength and reliability of the Cummins over any other features (whatever they may be, non I know of) of the Ford and the less powerful Powerstroke.

I agree and concur. That's why I never tell someone they should try something and never look back. I simply state what works for me. Each of our needs are different. When I pull my GN my Gross weight is always right around 24K. My two trucks with a total cost of $25K work fine for me.

 

[ovrszd]

Ford pickup Guys who never owned them all sound the same. Once you own one, they win you over. Especially when you need to pull something.

Another example.

 

[Hay Dude]

I could’ve done that but I’d probably end up having to stretch the frame too. I ended up settling for a 5.9 with a 6 speed transmission which wasn’t the power option I wanted but the truck checked every other thing I wanted. Now I want a single axel roll off truck. Rather or not I get one for what I want to pay is looking doubtful.

Its so important when you buy a piece of equipment to get as close to everything you want as possible. Making changes is big bucks.

 

[Hay Dude]

I agree and concur. That's why I never tell someone they should try something and never look back. I simply state what works for me. Each of our needs are different. When I pull my GN my Gross weight is always right around 24K. My two trucks with a total cost of $25K work fine for me.

Yeah those trucks are perfect for light work you’re doing.

 

[4570Man]

Its so important when you buy a piece of equipment to get as close to everything you want as possible. Making changes is big bucks.

Here’s a 9000 with a M11 and 10 speed but it has a 10 foot gravel bed. Virtually every 9000 I’ve seen for sale has the same bed configuration and I wanted a 14 foot bed with low sides. And they’re asking 19k which I could pay if it was what I wanted. I could probably buy a 9000 tractor for 5-10k but I don’t see doing a frame stretch, adding a pto and hydraulics and adding a dump bed for any less than 20k.

 

[Boss 302]

Yes, I realize that I'm just saying that the Manassas facilities primary business is automobile support and the expansion isn't up to speed yet.

 

[ovrszd]

Yeah those trucks are perfect for light work you’re doing.

You never did find me those two Cummins trucks for $25K that could take care of my light work in a better fashion than I currently do. I'll wait....

 

[nisaacs]

Here’s a 9000 with a M11 and 10 speed but it has a 10 foot gravel bed. Virtually every 9000 I’ve seen for sale has the same bed configuration and I wanted a 14 foot bed with low sides. And they’re asking 19k which I could pay if it was what I wanted. I could probably buy a 9000 tractor for 5-10k but I don’t see doing a frame stretch, adding a pto and hydraulics and adding a dump bed for any less than 20k.

That size bed is typical for a 6 wheeler. Upfitters know that 5 yards of sand will fit and load that truck to max gvw. A 14' bed is 10 wheeler territory. I recommend you look for a farm truck with a flatbed dump. They usually come in about 16'-18'. Farmers usually have lighter, bulky loads, so it works for them.

 

[Hay Dude]

You never did find me those two Cummins trucks for $25K that could take care of my light work in a better fashion than I currently do. I'll wait....

Keep on waiting. I’ll get back to you soon. It’s a top priority lol
Off the top of my head, I think just one Cummins truck could do a much better job than either, but opinions are like ——————-.
And we both know the used truck market is probably 50-100% higher than 2 years ago.
No need for the secret squirrel stuff.

 

[Hay Dude]

Here’s a 9000 with a M11 and 10 speed but it has a 10 foot gravel bed. Virtually every 9000 I’ve seen for sale has the same bed configuration and I wanted a 14 foot bed with low sides. And they’re asking 19k which I could pay if it was what I wanted. I could probably buy a 9000 tractor for 5-10k but I don’t see doing a frame stretch, adding a pto and hydraulics and adding a dump bed for any less than 20k.

I think a lot of them are higher HP big cubes single axle road tractors converted to 6 wheel excavators dumps. The small operator excavators like the higher power for pulling a backhoe, trackhoe, etc.
A single axle with an M11, N14, 855, etc is a great truck. Would be my preference over “vocational power” or CAT.

 

[ovrszd]

Keep on waiting. I’ll get back to you soon. It’s a top priority lol
Off the top of my head, I think just one Cummins truck could do a much better job than either, but opinions are like ——————-.
And we both know the used truck market is probably 50-100% higher than 2 years ago.
No need for the secret squirrel stuff.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

 

[4570Man]

That size bed is typical for a 6 wheeler. Upfitters know that 5 yards of sand will fit and load that truck to max gvw. A 14' bed is 10 wheeler territory. I recommend you look for a farm truck with a flatbed dump. They usually come in about 16'-18'. Farmers usually have lighter, bulky loads, so it works for them.

I got a truck with the bed I wanted. I just had to compromise for less power than I wanted.

 

[4570Man]

I wanted a bed with more volume for hauling lighter stuff than gravel and I wanted lower sides for easier loading with smaller equipment. Fold down sides that were still sturdy enough to take a beating would have been my preferred choice but I didn’t get that.

 

[Hay Dude]

Nothing wrong with that set up…. except the cab color lol Everything else looks good!
Almost all vocational trucks are lower HP. They are cheaper to buy as manufacturers charge for horsepower and they don’t want employees grenading drivelines with big power.

 

[4570Man]

Nothing wrong with that set up…. except the cab color lol
Almost all vocational trucks are lower HP. They are cheaper to buy as manufacturers charge for horsepower and they don’t want employees grenading drivelines with big power.

That one is set at 245 and a little over 600 fp which is probably better than average.

 

[Hay Dude]

That one is set at 245 and a little over 600 fp which is probably better than average.

I see 215-250 as the average. So yeah, you are in the zone.
Those trucks really need 300+ to make them go, but in some ways, keeping the power down keeps them slow and in the right lane where they belong.
A buddy of mine who I drive a Pete for would order his own trucks and spec them out with more azz than a typical truck. They were a kick to drive.