Bison rear blade

[jyoutz]

I’m looking for a rear blade for my MX6000. None of the Kubota dealers within reasonable distances have any Landpride heavy duty 7’ rear blades in stock. I’m wanting a blade with manual offset and tilt capability. One local Mahindra dealer is selling Bison blades. They have a heavy duty model with cat 2 pins with those capabilities weighing about 1000 pounds. Hp rating is 65-90 hp. My tractor is 60 hp. Is this too much blade for my tractor. I know the 3 point lift capacity is over 2300 pounds, but I’m wondering about pulling and cutting with this blade. Also, does anyone have any experience with the quality of these blades?

 

[bmaverick]

Do you have a link to this Bison blade?

Otherwise, the only other Bison blade I know of is for the Mitsubishi CUT tractors of 14 to 40Hp. Bison is a Satoh brand under Mitsubishi.

 

[LD1]

I pull a 8' 1250# hydraulic angle/offset blade behind an MX.

Id say a 7' 1000 pound blade would be fine.

Provided the tractor can lift it, (and it can) Id rather error on the side of too heavy.

A light blade might struggle to actually bite and take a cut on hard ground. Thats no good.

A heavy blade might try and take too much and stall you in your tracks. But you can adjust for that. You can always adjust the angle of attack of the blade...or feather the position control to take a bite the tractor is comfortable with.

In other words...you can always take a smaller/lesser bite with a heavy blade. But you cannot make a light blade take a heavier bite in hard ground

 

[oosik]

I have a HD Rhino 950 blade on my M6040. It's 96" and 1050#. I've had it and used it for seven years. It's 100% manual - except for my hydraulic top link.

I started out with a Land Pride 2584. It was - at 570# - too light and did not cut a wide enough path when angled. In the summer it just bounced and jumped down my mile long gravel driveway.

The Rhino DOES cut into my concrete-hard driveway in the summer. With ground engagement implements - weight IS your friend.

 

[jyoutz]

Do you have a link to this Bison blade?

Otherwise, the only other Bison blade I know of is for the Mitsubishi CUT tractors of 14 to 40Hp. Bison is a Satoh brand under Mitsubishi.

Here’s a link:

https://www.4startools.com/BINB120-210-Bison-Rear-Mount-Tractor-Blade-7-Ft-Wide-BINB120-210.htm

 

[jyoutz]

Thanks for all of your responses. I think I will go take a look at the blade.

 

[mo1]

I’m looking for a rear blade for my MX6000. None of the Kubota dealers within reasonable distances have any Landpride heavy duty 7’ rear blades in stock. I’m wanting a blade with manual offset and tilt capability. One local Mahindra dealer is selling Bison blades. They have a heavy duty model with cat 2 pins with those capabilities weighing about 1000 pounds. Hp rating is 65-90 hp. My tractor is 60 hp. Is this too much blade for my tractor. I know the 3 point lift capacity is over 2300 pounds, but I’m wondering about pulling and cutting with this blade. Also, does anyone have any experience with the quality of these blades?

The company that makes Bison blades also makes at least some of the blades for Frontier/John Deere. I have a Frontier RB2284 and it was made by them. Mine is a 7', category 2 only, manual offset, manual tilt, and manual angle blade weighing a little over 750 lbs with a full manual setup. There is an option of hydraulic offset but the rest is manual-only. Deere rates it for up to 80 PTO HP on a 2WD tractor and 70 PTO HP on an MFWD tractor. The Bison-branded blade the Frontier RB22 series is based on has a different turntable and has the option of hydraulic offset/angle/tilt which would make it a little heavier at a little over 800 pounds if you get all of the hydraulics. It is rated for that 65-90 HP range similar to the Frontier, so it looks like this is the unit the Manhindra dealer is carrying, not an actual 1000+ pound blade, as those are rated for north of 100 HP.

I run the RB2284 with a Deere 5075E with loaded ag tires. The blade is plenty stout for my tractor, which is heavier and more powerful than yours. The quality of the blade is good. The only thing I might have done differently is go with the 8' version to get a little more reach to the side. You likely do not absolutely have to have one built that sturdy with a 60 HP hydrostatic transmission tractor (particularly if you don't have loaded ag tires), but it would handle it just fine. Just make sure you have a loader or other front ballast on the tractor.

 

[jyoutz]

The company that makes Bison blades also makes at least some of the blades for Frontier/John Deere. I have a Frontier RB2284 and it was made by them. Mine is a 7', category 2 only, manual offset, manual tilt, and manual angle blade weighing a little over 750 lbs with a full manual setup. There is an option of hydraulic offset but the rest is manual-only. Deere rates it for up to 80 PTO HP on a 2WD tractor and 70 PTO HP on an MFWD tractor. The Bison-branded blade the Frontier RB22 series is based on has a different turntable and has the option of hydraulic offset/angle/tilt which would make it a little heavier at a little over 800 pounds if you get all of the hydraulics. It is rated for that 65-90 HP range similar to the Frontier, so it looks like this is the unit the Manhindra dealer is carrying, not an actual 1000+ pound blade, as those are rated for north of 100 HP.

I run the RB2284 with a Deere 5075E with loaded ag tires. The blade is plenty stout for my tractor, which is heavier and more powerful than yours. The quality of the blade is good. The only thing I might have done differently is go with the 8' version to get a little more reach to the side. You likely do not absolutely have to have one built that sturdy with a 60 HP hydrostatic transmission tractor (particularly if you don't have loaded ag tires), but it would handle it just fine. Just make sure you have a loader or other front ballast on the tractor.

I did buy the 8’ Bison blade, and it is a category 2 blade only. It seems like a perfect blade for my purposes. The literature rates it at 970 pounds. I have loaded T4 tires and loader. The MX6000 is also turbocharged. The little bit that I have experimented with the blade, I think I’m going to really like it.

 

[LD1]

I did buy the 8’ Bison blade, and it is a category 2 blade only. It seems like a perfect blade for my purposes. The literature rates it at 970 pounds. I have loaded T4 tires and loader. The MX6000 is also turbocharged. The little bit that I have experimented with the blade, I think I’m going to really like it.

Congrats on the new blade.

 

[xrjohndeere]

I’m looking for a rear blade for my MX6000. None of the Kubota dealers within reasonable distances have any Landpride heavy duty 7’ rear blades in stock. I’m wanting a blade with manual offset and tilt capability. One local Mahindra dealer is selling Bison blades. They have a heavy duty model with cat 2 pins with those capabilities weighing about 1000 pounds. Hp rating is 65-90 hp. My tractor is 60 hp. Is this too much blade for my tractor. I know the 3 point lift capacity is over 2300 pounds, but I’m wondering about pulling and cutting with this blade. Also, does anyone have any experience with the quality of these blades?

I did buy the 8’ Bison blade, and it is a category 2 blade only. It seems like a perfect blade for my purposes. The literature rates it at 970 pounds. I have loaded T4 tires and loader. The MX6000 is also turbocharged. The little bit that I have experimented with the blade, I think I’m going to really like it.

I have that same blade with hydraulics on it. I used it on a Kubota 5460 grand l I used to own. It handles it fine. Very heavy built blade. I could not tell if you have hydraulics on the blade or not. The hydraulics I have on mine can tilt and pivot. Very handy set up. Enjoy the new blade.

 

[jyoutz]

I have that same blade with hydraulics on it. I used it on a Kubota 5460 grand l I used to own. It handles it fine. Very heavy built blade. I could not tell if you have hydraulics on the blade or not. The hydraulics I have on mine can tilt and pivot. Very handy set up. Enjoy the new blade.

I don’t have hydraulics on the blade or rear connectors on tractor. I can manually move and pin the blade in any of the offset and tilt positions. I know, not as handy as hydraulics, but it will work until I can add hydraulics in the future. I am very impressed with the weight and substantial construction of this blade.

 

[bmaverick]

Here’s a link:

https://www.4startools.com/BINB120-210-Bison-Rear-Mount-Tractor-Blade-7-Ft-Wide-BINB120-210.htm

OUCH. Got blinded at the price stick.

 

[bmaverick]

I don’t have hydraulics on the blade or rear connectors on tractor. I can manually move and pin the blade in any of the offset and tilt positions. I know, not as handy as hydraulics, but it will work until I can add hydraulics in the future. I am very impressed with the weight and substantial construction of this blade.

oosik mentioned a hydraulic top-link. so, with your current manual adjustment blade, adding that would give you at least 1 movement of controlled hydraulics on the blade.

 

[jyoutz]

oosik mentioned a hydraulic top-link. so, with your current manual adjustment blade, adding that would give you at least 1 movement of controlled hydraulics on the blade.

I know. A future project. I’ve spent too much this year: MX6000 with loader and canopy, 6’ cutter, forks, blade. The wife says enough new toys for awhile.

 

[jyoutz]

OUCH. Got blinded at the price stick.

I paid $2700, but it is a lifetime blade: very heavy duty, and set up for hydraulics.

 

[mo1]

OUCH. Got blinded at the price stick.

That is about the MSRP on this kind of blade. I was able to get my green version of this blade for less than that but it was still a little over $2000. This is a much heavier and sturdier blade than your typical 300-400 pound light duty category 1 rear blade that would be appropriate for a 30-40 HP compact and the price matches this. But, the blade will be nearly indestructible behind the OP's tractor, which couldn't be said for the light duty ones if the OP catches a stump or a large rock with the corner of the blade.

Mine is fully manual as well, and to be honest, it isn't that big of a deal to go out and adjust any of the blade adjustments or the 3 point top and side links. I rarely have to move them more than 1 or 2 times during a job and it maybe takes a minute to adjust them. I would second the OP's choice to get a fully manual blade at first and then get the hydraulics later if and only if he decides he really needs them, because he may very well decide it isn't that big of a hassle and uses that money for another implement.

 

[bmaverick]

I paid $2700, but it is a lifetime blade: very heavy duty, and set up for hydraulics.

Sounds painful in the wallet.

For my all manual blade, I paid a mere $350 USD + tax new at a Farm and Fleet store chain.

 

[LD1]

Sounds painful in the wallet.

For my all manual blade, I paid a mere $350 USD + tax new at a Farm and Fleet store chain.

And it probably weighs less than 50 pound/ft and just chatters over a drive or hard ground.

Those light blades are really only good for light/loose material distribution or snow removal

 

[bmaverick]

And it probably weighs less than 50 pound/ft and just chatters over a drive or hard ground.

Those light blades are really only good for light/loose material distribution or snow removal

As this topic has stated, adding weight does make a difference.

The blade sure was effective in laying in a drive of large crush stone.

If I need to bust ground, the box blade with rippers have proven to be the best solution. Adding in 400-lbs to the box blade has made the hardest soil break free.

 

[jyoutz]

Sounds painful in the wallet.

For my all manual blade, I paid a mere $350 USD + tax new at a Farm and Fleet store chain.

Two questions: 1) how long ago?, and 2) is it a cat 2 1000 pound blade?
That price is awesome, but I’d be surprised if they are comparable or if you could buy the same blade today for $350.