What Did I Purchase?

[SmallChange]

Must be a good tractor you have or have had. What I love on old tractors is absence of much plastics compared to the more modern ones as you call them.

I'm with you. I don't like plastic on tractors. I prioritize more metal and less plastic in buying. Unfortunately I don't buy often, don't have a lot of money to throw around, and don't have many different brand options that I'm aware of, so there don't seem to be many options for exercising this preference by itself, there's always so many other competing priorities.

My old Kubota B6200 did have more metal and my new New Holland WM25 does have more plastic. That feels like a step down to me.

The old Kubota had unknown hours on it when I bought it. The hour meter would roll back around at 1000 hours, and the dealership that sold it said they thought it probably wasn't on the first go around. When I bought it, the tractor looked pretty worn, had some makeshift repairs, and it had some "funny places" where accessories had been removed and left messed up holes. I got 25 years out of it, but over the last 100 hours or so of use, I had to replace the gear shift lever (it broke off down at the base), the water pump, the alternator bracket (cheap easy job but we were out of commission for a couple weeks when I wanted to use it), and the clutch which stripped its splines (though I'm not sure that was within the last 100 hours). Besides, it was blowing a lot of blue smoke when it had to work hard. So, I was finding it unreliable and expensive.

Plus, I wanted a FEL, whereas the old tractor had a dozer blade. And I wanted something heavier and more powerful. Those were big steps up for the New Holland. Overall I am happy with it.

What I wish I could do is point at this and this and this and this, and say "I want these things to be metal rather than plastic". I'd have paid $1000 more if I could have done that. But this level of choice wasn't there.

 

[ArtMech]

I'm with you. I don't like plastic on tractors. I prioritize more metal and less plastic in buying. Unfortunately I don't buy often, don't have a lot of money to throw around, and don't have many different brand options that I'm aware of, so there don't seem to be many options for exercising this preference by itself, there's always so many other competing priorities.

My old Kubota B6200 did have more metal and my new New Holland WM25 does have more plastic. That feels like a step down to me.

The old Kubota had unknown hours on it when I bought it. The hour meter would roll back around at 1000 hours, and the dealership that sold it said they thought it probably wasn't on the first go around. When I bought it, the tractor looked pretty worn, had some makeshift repairs, and it had some "funny places" where accessories had been removed and left messed up holes. I got 25 years out of it, but over the last 100 hours or so of use, I had to replace the gear shift lever (it broke off down at the base), the water pump, the alternator bracket (cheap easy job but we were out of commission for a couple weeks when I wanted to use it), and the clutch which stripped its splines (though I'm not sure that was within the last 100 hours). Besides, it was blowing a lot of blue smoke when it had to work hard. So, I was finding it unreliable and expensive.

Plus, I wanted a FEL, whereas the old tractor had a dozer blade. And I wanted something heavier and more powerful. Those were big steps up for the New Holland. Overall I am happy with it.

What I wish I could do is point at this and this and this and this, and say "I want these things to be metal rather than plastic". I'd have paid $1000 more if I could have done that. But this level of choice wasn't there.

I understand you since I also have owned a Kubota L2202 which was all metal. The guy who bought it from me is still happy, we even became good friends. But yes, more modern mini and landscape tractors have more new features, less vibrating. And that became a priority comparing to the fact that a lot of plastic is used in tractor production.

Your B6200 probably was eating engine oil if you say it was blowing blue smoke. Nothing lasts forever. You had to give up that tractor.

 

[ArtMech]

Take smartphone and download Google Translate app. Let the app use phone’s camera. Point phone at Japanese signage. Read the English translation on your screen. The wizardry we carry in our pockets these days is amazing.

Is there any Translate app for desktop to translate Owner's Manual in many pages? I found it for this tractor in Japanese in a link posted by 5030 on another thread. Thank you in advance.

 

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Is there any Translate app for desktop to translate Owner's Manual in many pages? I found it for this tractor in Japanese in a link posted by 5030 on another thread. Thank you in advance.

It's possible to translate in google docs, but this PDF is actually just a bunch of images - it's not text.

 

[ptsg]

You can use the Google Translator app on a smartphone and point the camera to the text you need to translate. It works surprisingly well.

 

[ovrszd]

I think you did very well. I'm sure it will serve you for years to come. Thanks for posting and especially the excellent pictures!!!! We'll look forward to seeing the tractor working.

 

[ArtMech]

I think you did very well. I'm sure it will serve you for years to come. Thanks for posting and especially the excellent pictures!!!! We'll look forward to seeing the tractor working.

Meanwhile I'm thinking about the attachments, and how to collect them. Winter time is dedicated for that. It's not easy, 'cause you always need to remember - 15 hp is not the same like 90 hp of M9000, when I got used not to think about power.
I'll post more pics later.

 

[ArtMech]

You can use the Google Translator app on a smartphone and point the camera to the text you need to translate. It works surprisingly well.

Yeah, but there are many pages... Maybe one day ...

 

[plastikosmd]

Nice machine
Check pto rotation direction before purchasing attachments maybe?
I know my old 6100 was reverse and this cool machine may be similar

 

[ArtMech]

Nice machine
Check pto rotation direction before purchasing attachments maybe?
I know my old 6100 was reverse and this cool machine may be similar

Very good question.

Checked it out while purchasing. PTO has both directions in 540 rpm. And a regular direction in 1000 rpm.

 

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Very good question.

Checked it out while purchasing. PTO has both directions in 540 rpm. And a regular direction in 1000 rpm.

Awesome feature! Could be very useful for reversing a phd when it gets stuck!

 

[ArtMech]

Awesome feature! Could be very useful for reversing a phd when it gets stuck!

Good idea. Since the roes eat our flowers, my wife is asking me to think about a fence to protect flowers from them. So probably I'll need phd to build a fence. But I was not sure if 15 hp engine will be enough for that. I was going to do it with a M9000.

 

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Good idea. Since the roes eat our flowers, my wife is asking me to think about a fence to protect flowers from them. So probably I'll need phd to build a fence. But I was not sure if 15 hp engine will be enough for that. I was going to do it with a M9000.

I think you may be surprised - I use the phd on my ~30pto-hp tractor at an idle. It's not a hard job for a screw, it's just that a screw is really inconvenient to turn by hand so we use the tractor!

 

[ArtMech]

I think you may be surprised - I use the phd on my ~30pto-hp tractor at an idle. It's not a hard job for a screw, it's just that a screw is really inconvenient to turn by hand so we use the tractor!

I believe what you say. I just haven’t decided yet. I don’t want to be overloaded with implements that are really needed, but have a finite use. Means - you did a job and you don't need it anymore. All the more so, some implements, even those like phd, can be rented here. But we'll see, the winter time is for rethinking of every idea.

 

[Carl_NH]

I agree - winter is for planning - we have 700' of fence to install in the spring in rocky/ledge soil so I am thinking to rent a small skidsteer for two days $600 with down pressure auger to put in 40+ posts vs buying a PHD for my tractor with no down pressure may be money well spent renting vs buying.

 

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I agree - winter is for planning - we have 700' of fence to install in the spring in rocky/ledge soil so I am thinking to rent a small skidsteer for two days $600 with down pressure auger to put in 40+ posts vs buying a PHD for my tractor with no down pressure may be money well spent renting vs buying.

I have a phd (attachment -- not the degree lol).
In your situation I'd rent.
I'm not sure if I regret buying a phd as it's occasionally been useful- but I'm about to put 1400' of fence in and I'll likely rent a CTL with an auger for the reasons you mention, get it all done quickly with the down force and possibly most important, the maneuverability of the CTL as I'll be putting 500' along the edge of a driveway, from the driveway, won't be easy with a tractor. I'm going to try a few holes with the tractor+phd as a proof (or failure) of concept and then decide...

 

[ArtMech]

Oh no... First problems...
A tractor was stored in a garage for a week and here comes a trouble: front axle final drive and steering pivot axle seals are leaking!
It was driven just a few times on the snow for a test and that's it.

 

[priberc]

Oh no... First problems...
A tractor was stored in a garage for a week and here comes a trouble: front axle final drive and steering pivot axle seals are leaking!
It was driven just a few times on the snow for a test and that's it.

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"It was driven just a few times on the snow" Are you using this for snow removal? If so this is what I would do. Keep an eye on the oil level and fix it when it is warmer. It has been my observation that when fixing something it is always easier ,with a higher rate of success the first time, when the repair is not done in the cold
Chances are you will find that in the short term it is both easier and cheaper to just keep an eye on the oil level. That would be your decision though
That said ,if it is leaking profusely [to me it doesn't look that way from the picture attached] you will want to get it sealed up again.
How long did it take for this oil to leak out?

 

[ArtMech]

"It was driven just a few times on the snow" Are you using this for snow removal? If so this is what I would do. Keep an eye on the oil level and fix it when it is warmer. It has been my observation that when fixing something it is always easier ,with a higher rate of success the first time, when the repair is not done in the cold
Chances are you will find that in the short term it is both easier and cheaper to just keep an eye on the oil level. That would be your decision though
That said ,if it is leaking profusely [to me it doesn't look that way from the picture attached] you will want to get it sealed up again.
How long did it take for this oil to leak out?

No, I didn't use a tractor for snow removal. I did just some test drive. And it was left with the wheels completely in the left position. Maybe that could cause a leakage. With the wheels in straight position there was no leak noticed.
Week ago I've noticed a few drops of oil on the ground. This is why I put some cardboard underneath. And here is what i found yesterday. But it's not a problem to leave it until warmer time. I have another tractor to clear snow if necessary.

 

[priberc]

No, I didn't use a tractor for snow removal. I did just some test drive. And it was left with the wheels completely in the left position. Maybe that could cause a leakage. With the wheels in straight position there was no leak noticed.
Week ago I've noticed a few drops of oil on the ground. This is why I put some cardboard underneath. And here is what i found yesterday. But it's not a problem to leave it until warmer time. I have another tractor to clear snow if necessary.

With the extra info you have given it seems like a seal that is drying out/hardening. There are some products that when applied to the seal will "soften" them up restoring them for a period of time with out needing to replace the seal
Just a thought.... might be worth a try.
Good luck sir