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I was impressed that you use MAPP gas to start your stove!
No, that's cheating! Any true woodstove enthusiast knows you need to laboriously and meticulously assemble a pile of kindling and crumpled newspaper, and light it all with a single match. But in a new home still under construction, I will allow ignition by any means necessary. :ROFLMAO:
 
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No, that's cheating! Any true woodstove enthusiast knows you need to laboriously and meticulously assemble a pile of kindling and crumpled newspaper, and light it all with a single match. But in a new home still under construction, I will allow ignition by any means necessary. :ROFLMAO:

I started using a benzomatic weed torch to light my stove with propane about 15 years ago. I discovered mapp gas when we started doing burn piles here. I’m not likely to go back. I still get the kindling nut I want it to start quick.
 
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I enjoyed seeing the Ventrac working. Are you saving those small pines? Here, they are weeds. If you don't keep a field mowed, they will take over. It's a never ending battle to stop them!!!!!

I basically keep select pines to provide some company to smaller hardwoods that I might want to grow in a spot like that. I will probably cut them all away but figured I could leave a fee now and cut later.


I have some other areas where we are just letting it regenerate and it is pine scrub so thick you cant walk in it. But the deer go in there for cover as it grows, I will thin it a bit or push some trails thru it later.

We got 5 inches of snow then it was an inch of ice. I dont have a blade for the ventrac or I would have it in the garage here at the rental during storms. Had to shovel the drive by hand.
 
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I never tried using a torch to start a fire. I buy the Zip Firestarters at Walmart, and I really like them. They burn super hot, and long enough, to get a fire going quickly and easily.
Also cheating! 2 minutes in the penalty box for you.
 
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I know what you mean about it coming in so thick that you can't walk through it. For me, it happens in just a couple of years. But it's the opposite with deer. My land was very thick and there was almost no sign of deer. I couldn't even find a deer trail. The State Biologist told me that deer numbers where about one for every 40 acres because it was so thick everywhere. My neighbor and I have been opening up the land and making it more like a park. More land, more grass, more mowing, but also more deer. In my opinion, they go off to somebody elses place to hide in the thick stuff, but the spend all their time eating and running around on my place and my neighbors land, where it is now more open.

I'm not over run with deer, but the numbers have been increasing dramatically as the land gets opened up. There are trails all over the place. Lots of rubs, and it's non stop every night on the game cameras.

I'm not to the point that I want to get rid of all my pines, but I am trying to get rid of all the saplings. Nothing grows around them, and nothing eats them. At least the oaks and other hardwoods provide food for the deer and my goats. Goats love leaves!!!!

This is a fun picture because it shows what the future holds. A few years ago, we where excited if we had one buck show up to the feeder and food plot. Not they come in waves. A group of little bucks, a group of does, and then the bigger bucks that are alone, or there is two of them. Just guessing, I think that at times, there is one deer for every 3 acres on my land. It's a huge difference from what it was when the land was so thick.

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No, that's cheating! Any true woodstove enthusiast knows you need to laboriously and meticulously assemble a pile of kindling and crumpled newspaper, and light it all with a single match. But in a new home still under construction, I will allow ignition by any means necessary. :ROFLMAO:
Ha! I use a basic propane torch all the time. 30 sec with that and good to go! Can't beat it for ease of starting.
 
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I had a hard time starting a burn Saturday using a scripto lighter and a new fire starter, was too cold for the lighter. Finally got it. Found some old fire starters in my shed, used some of them starting a fire Sunday, along with some oily shop towels and a cardboard box.
Then I saw the video and thought about my propane torch.
 
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You can get those belts at a good auto parts store. I got some from the V-belt guys online.
 
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Eddie, we are not allowed to have feeders during hunting season. 30 days before season they have to be removed. There are plenty of deer around my place. The vineyard next to me has lots of hunters. Many of them only want trophy bucks but they also have large groups of people who come in and hunt anything that moves. They run dogs and kill many dozens of deer each year i am close to national park and the large land owners on the mountain behind me kicked most of the hunters off their lease about 2 years ago. But my wide open cleared areas get very little deer traffic. They prefer to travel small paths thru the thick stuff. It is a complicated puzzle and I have not figured out how to hunt this land since I cleared so much of it. I am very fortunate to have this challenging opportunity.
 
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You can get those belts at a good auto parts store. I got some from the V-belt guys online.

I picked ip two at NAPA. Had to go to several before I found any. And I have a few extra coming this week from Amazon. Had someone suggest going to a machinist and switching to a chain. I am sure that would tear the tractor to pieces the first time I hit something. .
 
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Never thought about the ice on the roof doing that. Hope it’s an easy fix.

And didn’t know bath fans now need dedicated circuit. Mine are on my lighting circuit.

Love the videos.
 
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I picked ip two at NAPA. Had to go to several before I found any. And I have a few extra coming this week from Amazon. Had someone suggest going to a machinist and switching to a chain. I am sure that would tear the tractor to pieces the first time I hit something. .
The belt is a better solution imo. Belts are cheap and will slip if over powered. Also sandy dusty condition would be hard on chain and sprockets. I believe the belt is more efficient too maybe
 
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Posted up a video this morning.

We planned to put snow guards for safety. But I didn’t think the small amount of snow and Ice we have here could be a structural problem.
After the fact I did some research. 12 inches of wet snow will put 40,000 lbs on our roof. So that 4 inches of snow and ice was about 12-13,000 lbs. a big chunk of that slowly sliding down the roof as one piece is gonna be a huge amount of force.

I have some work to do to fix this.

 
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Never thought about the ice on the roof doing that. Hope it’s an easy fix.

And didn’t know bath fans now need dedicated circuit. Mine are on my lighting circuit.

Love the videos.

I think the issue is that they tend to trip the gfci tied circuit. We are excited. He will be getting in there soon to start working on it.
 
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I think the issue is that they tend to trip the gfci tied circuit. We are excited. He will be getting in there soon to start working on it.

Another reason to keep lights and outlets on separate circuits. Only my wall outlet is GFI in baths, with all bath outlets on same circuit.
A good move to take the fan off. Hope you get all the lights right. I have a couple I wish were moved.

I’ve been cleaning out my old woodshed and putting the good wood in a tote and burning the rotten stuff. A bit chilly working out there today. A big chunk of my wood is frozen together from all the freezing rain over a week ago. Today I was able to pull it out with pallet forks and set it in the sun to thaw.
 
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My heart sank when I saw daylight coming in around the chimney! I know that feeling all too well after working hard on a project and something just has to come along and spoil the mood.

Ice and snow on roofs can do all sorts of goofy things. I remember dealing with a variety of problems over the years when my dad was a builder up in CT. Sometimes the solution is opposite of intuition, especially when issues are caused by some combination of slope, exposure, heat, and insulation.

Putting a snow splitter uphill of the chimney (and any vent pipes, etc) will take care of general problems due to gravity loads. The snow splitter does not need to be fancy, it just needs to divert snow around the chimney when it begins to slide. The simplest ones look like shark fins with some wings.

I assume there will there be a thimble/trim/plate/etc installed on the ceiling once everything is finished? That will be important to eliminate freeze/thaw issues around the chimney collar that can be as bad or worse than snow/gravity loads. Any sort of temperature gradient or insulation difference or abrupt temperature change reaching the roof will exacerbate snow/ice problems significantly. It could have possibly been a contributor to the current problem.
 
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My heart sank when I saw daylight coming in around the chimney! I know that feeling all too well after working hard on a project and something just has to come along and spoil the mood.

Ice and snow on roofs can do all sorts of goofy things. I remember dealing with a variety of problems over the years when my dad was a builder up in CT. Sometimes the solution is opposite of intuition, especially when issues are caused by some combination of slope, exposure, heat, and insulation.

Putting a snow splitter uphill of the chimney (and any vent pipes, etc) will take care of general problems due to gravity loads. The snow splitter does not need to be fancy, it just needs to divert snow around the chimney when it begins to slide. The simplest ones look like shark fins with some wings.

I assume there will there be a thimble/trim/plate/etc installed on the ceiling once everything is finished? That will be important to eliminate freeze/thaw issues around the chimney collar that can be as bad or worse than snow/gravity loads. Any sort of temperature gradient or insulation difference or abrupt temperature change reaching the roof will exacerbate snow/ice problems significantly. It could have possibly been a contributor to the current problem.

Yes, i am planning to put a steel plate on the ceiling and make it as close to air tight as possible. The flashing bent but didn’t split and the collar got peeled off the chimney pipe. The pipe itself is still in good shape so I think I can fix this before it becomes a disaster.
 
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I just skimmed through the video without any sound. Getting on that roof and cleaning off the snow must of been horrible. I would have hated to have to of done that. I'm glad that you where able to get it done and not get hurt. I was also happy that you caught it early!!!!!!
 
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I am keeping an eye on the roof. I ordered snow guards today, but I still have to figure out what style of snow diverter I am putting ip for the chimney. They are quite pricey and mounting systems for standing seam roof can double the price. I would build my own but supplies of everything are limited and prices for metal are thru the roof. Bad pun for this instance, I suppose. I am trying to get my materials together. Putting the snow guards up there should almost guarantee that we don’t get another snowfall this year.
With so much outstanding from the build, I don’t want to spend on this right now, but the potential for this to become 10k in repair cos is very real.
 

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