Kioti Broken in Half

   / Kioti Broken in Half #271  
Not seeing it.

On my 27" iMac I can see the teeth of the ring gear on the flywheel.

Also notice that the owner is so AR, that he has a can of Kioti orange spray paint in the cab suggesting that he is taking care of things.

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   / Kioti Broken in Half #274  
That's the front of the engine. The subframe broke right in front of the engine. Looking at the parts diagram, I suspect it broke right where they put a bent on widen the frame for the battery, radiator, etc.


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I tell you what: that sure is the fan so I guess I'm all wet!

I reached out on FakeBook inviting the owner to provide us with better photos here on tractorby.net.
 
   / Kioti Broken in Half #275  
Oh good, you all can see it too, so I'm not going crazy then!
Thought I had missed something.

Do we know if a warranty claim was submitted and denied?

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   / Kioti Broken in Half #276  
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   / Kioti Broken in Half #277  
All my FELs (six so far, three now) had/have 'sub-frames' forward of the towers vs behind them. This puts downforce at the front of the 'frame' and front wheels and upforce on the tower. With a rear sub-frame all the load is at mid-tractor with the fronts more or less cantilevered out and not IMO as it should be. There's a reason for my preference. Check the loader on any industrial tractor.

This Allied 45 was left here last year when I sold the 5210. It has both front sub-frame and frame extensions. I didn't get the 'short WB rails' off before he hauled it to MA and only have those that came off a 2750 to sell with it for him. (make offer)

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   / Kioti Broken in Half #278  
Grapple stuff is normally pretty easy on a tractor's drivetrain as it is nabbing lighter-weight stuff—especially if there isn't any counterweight at the back—than three-point earth engaging stuff on the drawbar where all four wheels are working at or near a maximun effort to drag along.
Not.
 
   / Kioti Broken in Half #279  
My grapples usually do more than nab lightweight stuff, though digging up rocks and stumps are no part of their use. I can have a 'puller' on one FEL, a lifter on another, and the mini-BH to do the serious part with a bit of seat-hopping. btw, I'd rather not have to rely on a Swiss Army knife to cut an anchor or mooring line if ever needed.
 
   / Kioti Broken in Half #280  
I don't recall much talk about ballast here. If the owner was using that monstrous grapple to the limit, traversing rough ground and had no ballast (or tire ballast which would not help here), the majority of the weight of the tractor and load was on the front axle and transferred through those sections of the frame. While the loader might have lifted the weight, the impact loads of traversing were likely too much. Could proper ballast have helped? I think theoretically, yes.

And if I were a Kioti rep - that's where I would go first.
 

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