Had to replace the injectors on my 2014 MF 1739 @150 hrs because it was stuck in regen mode...very disappointed in this tractor..its a piece of crap in my opinion now...but not like I'm gonna get rid of it ..just stuck with it..
DPF Regeneration driving me crazy...
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bvanek
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there you go, Mikester
excellent point(s) and one that many younger generation people are fine with because they accept having their livelihoods controlled by government bureaucrats and global elites. I guess owning something outright (bought and paid for) means you only own it by permission (subscription) and if you don't comply we will shut you down.
I have a 2012 Kioti Dk 40 clutch.......I bought in 2013 but was able to get the 2012 model (no hydros left but i wanted a manual trans anyway) The point being that in 2013 the new models were required by government to phase in the regens and other emission electronics. The regens to be the final solution? yes, nothing is final with the bureaucrats in charge. (the main course here comes with a full serving of fossil fuel elimination) or at least make it so expensive you can't afford having anything that might give you some independent control of your life.
anyway your point about repair is also well taken, as many of us are not "suburban" owners. I live 30 miles from parts and repair so it is in my best interest to be able to diagnose and fix most repair issues at the time (or before) they occur....If you just have the basics then it's much easier and more efficient to get up and running ASAP.....My rig has some electronics but pretty basic and learnable....So far I have been able to fix and diagnose issues , but I also do routine maintenance and have a pretty good sense for something that doesn't sound or feel right. Most of my issues have not been the fault of the tractor, rather me doing dumb things.So I guess Kioti has gotten most things right.
One other note my tractor does put out emissions but it is not black soot......grey-white and not much..... RPM's go up emissions almost disappear. I, like most conscious machine owners, appreciate clean air but we must also understand that there is a proportional component to how much a small land owner contributes and at what cost. Also if you are losing efficiency and therefore burning more fuel where does that cost trade off factor in? When you can no longer afford the product that you need to survive?
....... Remember the subscription scene as stated by mikester. It is very real and I have several examples. Once the elitists get control they will not compromise, they will never stop until they own you entirely.....there's a 2022 reality check out there. Take a good hard look.
excellent point(s) and one that many younger generation people are fine with because they accept having their livelihoods controlled by government bureaucrats and global elites. I guess owning something outright (bought and paid for) means you only own it by permission (subscription) and if you don't comply we will shut you down.
I have a 2012 Kioti Dk 40 clutch.......I bought in 2013 but was able to get the 2012 model (no hydros left but i wanted a manual trans anyway) The point being that in 2013 the new models were required by government to phase in the regens and other emission electronics. The regens to be the final solution? yes, nothing is final with the bureaucrats in charge. (the main course here comes with a full serving of fossil fuel elimination) or at least make it so expensive you can't afford having anything that might give you some independent control of your life.
anyway your point about repair is also well taken, as many of us are not "suburban" owners. I live 30 miles from parts and repair so it is in my best interest to be able to diagnose and fix most repair issues at the time (or before) they occur....If you just have the basics then it's much easier and more efficient to get up and running ASAP.....My rig has some electronics but pretty basic and learnable....So far I have been able to fix and diagnose issues , but I also do routine maintenance and have a pretty good sense for something that doesn't sound or feel right. Most of my issues have not been the fault of the tractor, rather me doing dumb things.So I guess Kioti has gotten most things right.
One other note my tractor does put out emissions but it is not black soot......grey-white and not much..... RPM's go up emissions almost disappear. I, like most conscious machine owners, appreciate clean air but we must also understand that there is a proportional component to how much a small land owner contributes and at what cost. Also if you are losing efficiency and therefore burning more fuel where does that cost trade off factor in? When you can no longer afford the product that you need to survive?
....... Remember the subscription scene as stated by mikester. It is very real and I have several examples. Once the elitists get control they will not compromise, they will never stop until they own you entirely.....there's a 2022 reality check out there. Take a good hard look.
Raul-02
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I have about 65 hours on my 47 HP kioti Not one regen cycle. But then I don't run it slow an awful lot. I've been asking an awful lot of the machine so I need the max available horsepower.
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You can sell it for more than you might imagine what with the supply chain nightmare
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Well, they will force everyone into electric tractors in a bit, so soon it will be a moot point....LOL
tractortroof
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Since he started having problems at like 100 hours, do ya think the prediction of 20k hours is possibly a little ambitious?
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I mis-posted about operating speed. meant to operate at reccomended speeds. Sorry.
I don’t get too bothered by the regenerations. I’m not going to change the way I operate my tractor to lengthen the span of time between regens. Long periods of time at higher RPMs to lengthen the span of time between regens vs. shorter periods of time at very high RPMs during regen seems like the same thing to me. I’ve operated tractors for some time now and I just do things my way. This is my first machine with a DPF so it’s a new experience. I only have 30 hours on my tractor and two regens – each after 15 hours. I tried to do a parked regeneration the first time and it wasn’t as smooth as the second time. The second time, I was pushing snow around and just turned up the RPMs per the tractor’s “request” and, as others have said, I didn’t even notice it at all. I did have to interrupt the cycle when it first came on because I was inside the garage and wasn’t ready. Still, no big deal at all. I have an HST so the speed control is irrespective of tractor RPMs. Maybe it's easier??
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