Lost an hour to DST

[MossRoad]

What you think is it real this time, is DST gone for good?

No, it's not gone for good, it's here for good. They're voting to keep DST forever so that you'll not have to change your clocks twice a year, and all the daylight hours will be shifted towards the end of the day, rather than the beginning of the day, permanently.

 

[MossRoad]

OOPS!! Missed the other thread abotu DST . Admins. you can erase this one.

I can merge this thread with the other one soon. Stand by.

 

[MossRoad]

The two threads on this subject have been merged into this one. Please continue to discussions. Thanks.

 

[ruffdog]

I don't like heat, so not having that extra hour in the AM to get things done before going to work really sucks.

Agree, for people that work 2nd shift, taking a morning hour away sucks. If you are waiting for the grass to dry before you can mow means doing the work RIGHT before you leave for work.

 

[Oaktree]

Yes. It was fairly common to see a school bus or two parked at a dairy farm around here as well. One of the farmer families that my wife and I went to school with used to have several school busses and routes for the local school district. They weren't dairy farmers, but have a feed mill, farm store, and large nursery, besides the several thousand acres of grains and vegetables.

Same deal where I grew up. About half the busses were owned by the school district and driven by school employees, the others owned and driven by a farm family. These were dairy farmers...soil's too rocky here for anything else. Profitable sideline for them.

 

[Root Cause]

Fear, not those who don't like it. As written, we won't stop changing our clocks until spring of '24. Software companies will be given time to rewrite their software for airlines etc. to stop the madness. No doubt the USPS and IRS will struggle with these inconsiderate deadlines.

 

[MossRoad]

Agree, for people that work 2nd shift, taking a morning hour away sucks. If you are waiting for the grass to dry before you can mow means doing the work RIGHT before you leave for work. If DST is year round, it will be getting dark in December at 3:30 pm here....interesting.

I think it'll be around 4:30 now where you are in the CST if they stay on DST year round.

Remember spring forward, fall back when setting your clocks to DST?

Well, if they pass it, we'll never set the clocks back. They'll stay sprung forward forever. So sunsets will be an hour later in winter than in past years.

At least I think that's how it will be.

 

[Hay Dude]

Just goes to show you dairy farmers were looking for off-farm income 40-50 years ago.

 

[ruffdog]

I think it'll be around 4:30 now where you are in the CST if they stay on DST year round.

Remember spring forward, fall back when setting your clocks to DST?

Well, if they pass it, we'll never set the clocks back. They'll stay sprung forward forever. So sunsets will be an hour later in winter than in past years.

At least I think that's how it will be.

Ha! You caught my mistake...before I removed it.

 

[MossRoad]

Just goes to show you dairy farmers were looking for off-farm income 40-50 years ago.

It wasn't just dairy farmers.

I think we've had this conversation before, maybe not, but anyway, my dad and mom both had full-time jobs and did other work on the side for extra income. My wife's parents did the same.

My wife and I had 6 jobs between us when we got married. Didn't stop the extra jobs for about 11 years after that.

I think the general consensus was that if you wanted to get ahead faster, you worked as many jobs as you could fit in while finding a balance with your spouse/family for free time.

 

[MossRoad]

Ha! You caught my mistake...before I removed it.

 

[jyoutz]

A day to go down in history, all 100 senators actually agreed on something!

I think they all always agree to their pay raises.

 

[ruffdog]

One issue might be losing 1 hour of daylight in the morning for snow removal before kids and adults leave in the morning. The plows would just have to run lights more. Way back when we did an experiment and went DST all year and people DIDN'T like it. Interesting article:

The US Tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in the '70s. People Hated It | Washingtonian (DC)

 

[MossRoad]

One issue might be losing 1 hour of daylight in the morning for snow removal before kids and adults leave in the morning. The plows would just have to run lights more. Way back when we did an experiment and went DST all year and people DIDN'T like it. Interesting article:

The US Tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in the '70s. People Hated It | Washingtonian (DC)

I found a way around that snow removal in the mornings.... I don't do it. It used to be required if you wanted to get out of the driveway, especially if the plow went by. However, we haven't had enough snow to require it in about a decade. I have 4wd in the Suburban, and the wife works from home now. The mother in-law is retired. So no one needs to get out of their houses anymore, so any shoveling/plowing that has to be done now waits until I get home from work. If they keep DST, I'll even have some sunlight after work to do it VS turning on the tractor lights.

 

[jyoutz]

Looks like the Senate passed a bill to get rid of Daylight savings. Next onto the House and Biden.

What you think is it real this time, is DST gone for good?

Looks like if it passes it will not take effect until Nov 2023.

What will I do without my extra hour of sleep in November.

No. The senate passed the bill to make DST permanent year round.

 

[HawkinsHollow]

No. The senate passed the bill to make DST permanent year round.

Yes, I realize that. My mistake.

 

[ruffdog]

Everyone's situation is different but I think I would lean towards permanent standard time vs permanent DST. Sure, this bill/vote happens right when people are having to go through the clock change and emotions are high. Should more thought be put into going permanent DST than emotions? Should we have discussions and studies BEFORE a vote?

 

[ruffdog]

Some people would enjoy an extra hour in the morning in the summer so they could bike/run/fish before work. It really depends on if people are morning people or late afternoon people and what their work hours are. I'm retired and have my own hours but am just looking at it from different angles.

 

[Snobdds]

Just goes to show you dairy farmers were looking for off-farm income 40-50 years ago.

It's funny you took the plight of the dairy farmer to rail against DST.

 

[masscity]

The county I live in is the farthest west in EST. In the summer it was light until 10:30-10:45pm if I remember correctly. 75 year old brain.