Diesel Fuel Rationing?

   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #32  
Isn't this the rational used by Buffet for investing in rail?
 
   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #33  
I suspect the supposed 'rationing' will become self imposed as we get deeper into the recession. If you don't have the jack to buy it (diesel or gasoline), you won't. Real simple economics.
Given the choice I would rather not wait in odd/even day ration lines with 10 gallon limits if high price could avoid it.

Too bad today's CA blend does not keep well.

$200 truck fill ups are not in my future unless I can pass it on through work related expense.

The old 2001 Corolla at 41 mpg is the gift that keeps giving... and it is simple tech.
 
   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #34  
As long as the power stays on, we have a 25 cubic foot freezer full ...
You stated a conditional that is the biggest issue. Your wording sounds like you don't make your own electricity, therefore you aren't much better off than the rest. But hey, half a solution is better than none.
 
   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #35  
And look what happened to Enron. Toast.
Can you prove this is happening right now? I’m actually sure it could happen, but dont know it is happening.
Your cynical remark about “capitalism” is political in nature and belongs in another forum. Although it’s nowhere near perfect, I’ll take it with guardrails over any other system.

Problem is the "guardrails" seem to guard the Corporations, not the Consumer. Funny how that works.
 
   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #36  
Problem is the "guardrails" seem to guard the Corporations, not the Consumer. Funny how that works.
Bah, there’s so many consumer protection laws out there.
Price gouging is one they can get away with once in a while, but the consumer will get revenge in the end. They will shop/buy elsewhere.
 
   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #37  
Railroads get plenty of govy bucks, too
 
   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #38  
Bah, there’s so many consumer protection laws out there.
Price gouging is one they can get away with once in a while, but the consumer will get revenge in the end. They will shop/buy elsewhere.

When all the Oil Companies, without "colluding" of course, keep their prices outrageous, where ya gonna buy fuel? When Tyson, Perdue and the other frozen food makes are lock step in price rises, where are, city people mostly, gonna buy? When Drug manufacturers, like for insulin and other "need it to live" drugs are sky high, where do you go, when it is illegal to buy medicines from overseas and Medicare is legally proscribed from negotiating prices?

You're free to think what you want, but please don't shut out facts. The idea that "consumers" and "producers" are supposed to be "at war" is insane and ultimately self defeating. But it is not a zero cost game.
 
   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #39  
1. When all the Oil Companies, without "colluding" of course, keep their prices outrageous, where ya gonna buy fuel? 2. When Tyson, Perdue and the other frozen food makes are lock step in price rises, where are, city people mostly, gonna buy? 3. When Drug manufacturers, like for insulin and other "need it to live" drugs are sky high, where do you go, when it is illegal to buy medicines from overseas and Medicare is legally proscribed from negotiating prices?

You're free to think what you want, but please don't shut out facts. The idea that "consumers" and "producers" are supposed to be "at war" is insane and ultimately self defeating. But it is not a zero cost game.
1. People will congregate to the lowest price fuel outlets they can. Next, they will refrain from unnecessary trips. Then they will buy higher fuel economy vehicles. Finally, they will buy alternative fuel vehicles. This will cause an oversupply due to reduced demand. Prices will fall. Believe me, ain’t nobody bellyaching about fuel prices more than me. I bet I use 25 times as much fuel as the average TBN’er. I hate it. This time however, I think there’s more than just “evil” corporations involved.

2. They will buy beef, fish, seafood, tofu, or other types of food. Thats called competition.

3. Ask your heros down in D.C. they made the policies. Thats not a corporations fault. Not being able to buy from outside the US is not a corporations fault.

I’m not shutting out any facts. I don’t think capitalism is perfect-no, far from it.
But I dont want communism or socialism. Never, ever. Thats a road to poverty, disparity, war and death.
 
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   / Diesel Fuel Rationing? #40  
1. People will congregate to the lowest price fuel outlets they can. Next, they will refrain from unnecessary trips. Then they will buy higher fuel economy vehicles. Finally, they will buy alternative fuel vehicles.

2. They will buy beef, fish, seafood, or other types of food. Thats called competition.

3. Ask your heros down in D.C. they made the laws. Thats not a corporations fault. Not being able to buy from outside the US is not a corporations fault.

I’m not shutting out any facts. I don’t think capitalism is perfect-no, far from it.
But I dont want communism or socialism. Never, ever. Thats a road to poverty, disparity, war and death.

Where did I support any of those "alternative" economic schemes? Never. That you mention them and extol "capitalism" tells me your opinions are base more on ingrained Political views than other considerations, especially when you enumerated your "talking points".

1 - That may true to some degree, but, around here at least, there are only pennies differences between stations. I don't know the retailers arrangements, but I bet the refiners are not affected by that, AT ALL. Unnecessary Trip. Sure, some will, some won't. Not enough people today can afford to buy new cars or even used at today's prices, so as to gain that advantage. Same applies to "alternative fuel vehicles". Regardless, NONE of that pressures that Oil companies to lower prices TODAY.

2 - Really? It is not just frozen food makers, but the Beef, chicken and Fish products are ALL at record highs. Why? Because they CAN and can blame it on "those politicians" and "inflation". THAT's called collusion, or "one plan to rule them all"?

3 - "MY Hero's?" How do you think these laws get made? Why to you think Medicare and Medicaid cannot negotiate prices? Lobbyists. Drug CORPORATION Lobbyists. Same for the LAWS preventing buying meds from overseas. Yes, it IS the Corporations fault as they spend Miliions each year on their Lobbying efforts and it is NOT to protect the consumer.

Not shutting out facts? That's debatable.

Expect no further response from me on this topic.
 
 
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