Mixing used oil with diesel in the tractor.

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DaveinValdez

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Anyone mixing used oil in with their diesel to cut the cost? I have old hydraulic and motor oil that I can filter and maybe mix in a quart per five gallons of diesel. We went to $6.40 a gallon today and if I project out the increases to winter plowing season, it looks like I might be shoveling this year.
 
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Anyone mixing used oil in with their diesel to cut the cost? I have old hydraulic and motor oil that I can filter and maybe mix in a quart per five gallons of diesel. We went to $6.40 a gallon today and if I project out the increases to winter plowing season, it looks like I might be shoveling this year.
Interesting question, how well can you filter it? pumps and injectors are expensive. by my math you would be saving about 35 bucks on every 100 gal you burned or about 5%. Is your stuff tier 4?

Best,

ed
 
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I’m scared to try it. And I wouldn’t waste my time to cut it at that ratio. If it wouldn’t burn at least 20 percent it wouldn’t be worth it.
 
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That's what I thought. I've heard of it. Just trying to brainstorm ideas to cut costs. Our heating oil has tripled just by itself. In the winter the community's electricity is powered by diesel, so the electric bills are going to be tripled too this winter if not 4X's.
 
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I bought a L2501 in April, 2022. The service tech that delivered it said diesel fuel systems today have to have clean fuel and aren't like the older diesel systems that were more forgiving.

I wouldn't put dirty anything in a diesel engine, especially if it was the source of electric power that people are depending on.
 
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Personally wouldn’t do it, especially not with the used engin oil, it’s been depleted and it is full of metal molecule. Just did a quick search and learned that some people do mix used hydraulic oil in their diesel didn’t know such thing was possible not so the worse thing i have heard in a wile i guess … but at cold temperature it can cause problem like clogging fuel filters and fuel lines / injectors probably causing some settlement at the bottom of the tank too … not worth it in my opinion
 
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That's what I thought. I've heard of it. Just trying to brainstorm ideas to cut costs. Our heating oil has tripled just by itself. In the winter the community's electricity is powered by diesel, so the electric bills are going to be tripled too this winter if not 4X's.
If you really have a lot of used motor and hydraulic oils it may be worth your while to buy or build a waste oil heater for your house. There are tons of plans floating around on the internet and on YouTube. Some folks are converting wood stoves to waste oil heaters. I don't know if your oil burning furnace will be able to use a mixture of motor oil and fuel oil but it might tolerate the mix better than your tractor engine. I have worked on old oil furnaces to repair them and they seem pretty simple, especially compared to engines with injectors.
Good Luck,
Eric
 
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In the late 1970s and early 1980s, there was a push towards making homes more energy efficient by insulating better, getting rid of air leaks, better sealed doors and windows, using solar and wood heating, etc. Our local electric company used to do "energy audits" to recommend how to conserve power and had some promotional deals on adding insulation and more efficient HVAC units. As the energy crisis in those days eased up, some of those ideas fell by the wayside. Higher fuel prices may make it worthwhile to revisit some of those ideas.

One of the things that used to be done was they had this big fan that they would place in an exterior doorway to pressurize a house to see how leaky it really was. Apartments tended to be the worst because they assumed the tenants would pay the heating and cooling bills, and so they tended not to care as much about energy efficiency. I remember one HVAC engineer telling me that he wouldn't size an HVAC system for an apartment building without doing a blower door test because he never could assume how tight or leaky the apartment building would be.

As houses got tighter, then they weren't exchanging fresh air as much which has its own issues.

I don't know if you have an older home or a newer home much less how well insulated and sealed it may be. Perhaps there may be some inexpensive things you could do before winter to use less energy?
 
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After reading a bit it seems that adding used motor oil to fuel for your furnace can be just as bad as burning it in a diesel engine. Apparently a special type of furnace really needs to be used. But there are lots of folks building and using these furnaces. Just how much waste oil are you generating anyway? If you have 20 gallons to use and diesel is at 7 bucks a gallon then you could maybe save $140.00. Would that be worth it? And the stuff doesn't burn very clean anyway. I know, money is tight for lots of folks. Being newly retired and living off of our investments now I totally understand the desire to save money wherever possible.
Eric
 
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Anyone seen this????


willy
 
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Just trying to brainstorm ideas to cut costs.

Kubota B2601

Diesel consumption should be around 1/4 gallon per hour.


We went to $6.40 a gallon today

$6.40 / 4 = $1.60 per hour for diesel.
 
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I bought my years supply of diesel two weeks ago - $4.73/gallon. Today - around $5.00/gallon.
 
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Dave - you would think that the tankers arriving there in Valdez - could come loaded with refined petroleum products. They could off-load these products and then take on crude oil.

Maybe this just isn't in the cards.
 
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I know guys who heat their garages with used waste oil, works great after a bunch of filtration. They don't use high pressure diesel injector pumps costing thousands of dollars to repair or replace though.

Unless you plan running on 100% waste oil I don't think you will save much money in the long run.
 
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Before 1989 I had no problems mixing used hydraulic oil with Diesel for our tractors. Would not do it with a modern system.
Why not? I do it all the time and never have had an issue. Your fuel filter ahead of the injection pump will filter out anything that might cause the injection system issues. Don't go crazy with it. I'll add a couple quarts of drain oil to every tank of fuel.

Roadway Express (Now YRC) has been doing it for decades. In fact they have their own injection system that meters drain oil onto the fuel. Makes disposal much less costly. Not sure it would work with the emissions engines of late but both my Kubota's and my diesel pickup truck are pre 4.
 
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I could see where some trucking company might have developed their own used motor oil filtration system, and it wouldn't be too surprising if they also have determined exactly how much filtered oil they can meter into their fuel systems without causing injector issues.

They are running their engines for hours every day so whatever filtered oil that is injected into their fuel systems is likely getting burned at full operating temps. It's not like they are starting their tractor, doing a small job, and then shutting it down at Alaska temps with the tractor sitting for days afterwards with a mix of diesel and oil in one fuel tank. There is that aspect to consider.
 
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Don't think that is an option. Might cost a lot more that it would save.
 

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