Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

[California]

Looks like part of what makes that crossing so dangerous is that it isn't at right angles. You would need to twist your head around extremely, to look for a train coming that is moving nearly parallel to you.

 

[oliver1555]

My son said Amtrak runs 90 MPH through there.

 

[Diggin It]

 

[oliver1555]

My son sent this to me. I don’t know who he got it from.

 

[BigBlue1]

Is that the Amtrak crash situation? Do those passenger cars really weigh enough to require a truck with that many axles? They're basically just a big empty can with seats.

 

[oliver1555]

That is the scene. I assume it’s similar to this

 

[BigBlue1]

Interesting. Surprising weight.

 

[California]

Interesting. Surprising weight.

A difference between passenger rail in the US and high speed rail elsewhere, is US passenger railcars have to meed a high standard for surviving a crash with a freight train. This was enacted because they run on the same tracks, and probably after some horrific crashes.

I think our urban 'Light Rail' can be much lighter because of dedicated routes.

 

[Renze]

A difference between passenger rail in the US and high speed rail elsewhere, is US passenger railcars have to meed a high standard for surviving a crash with a freight train. This was enacted because they run on the same tracks, and probably after some horrific crashes.

I think our urban 'Light Rail' can be much lighter because of dedicated routes.

Near my hometown a train hit a tracked manlift that was used to trim trees. Because the lowboy couldnt pass this overpass without getting the bed stuck on the rails, they waited for the train to pass, so there was time to pass the single rail at snail pass, before the next train, because the max speed of this tracked manlift was only 1 kmh


Unfortunately there is a double rail section further down the rail so trains can pass, so a train came in opposed direction before the railway was cleared.

While in previous years the national railways ran a "ape head" train, model year 1964 on this line, with a welded front of sheet metal on structural section ribs, this line was spun off to the private sector, and operated by a company that bought a flimsy train with a glassfiber front. It derailed when hitting the 12 ton manlift, killing the engineer in the process. It was a matter of pure luck that the train was allmost empty at that time.

Here a video of the Dutch NTSB:

When in another village 25 years ago a 15 ton Cat 212B wheeled excavator was hit, the firemen had to cut the engineer from the train because he was slightly pinched, but he lived and fully recovered. The excavator operator however, was dug out from his cab so he could climb out on his own. Needless to say, the Werkspoor train didnt derail, it just had to be towed because the control room was damaged.

Here an image of a Werkspoor "ape head" under construction:

https://images.beneluxspoor.net/bnls/32cDrN5Ca.jpg

 

[KilroyJC]

I wish I had pictures from 1986? 1987? Thereabouts when I voluteered to help a friend do a roof repair at his girlfriend’s family’s bungalow out on Long Island.

roof repair became roof replacement.

On the roof of my 1975 Chevy Impala: 18 sheets of plywood.
in the back seat: 20 rolls of asphalt roofing.
in the trunk: 10 more rolls of roofing and 5 buckets of tar, and several boxes of nails.

on the radio in a perfect world would have been War “Low Rider”…

 

[seville009]

I wish I had pictures from 1986? 1987? Thereabouts when I voluteered to help a friend do a roof repair at his girlfriend’s family’s bungalow out on Long Island.

roof repair became roof replacement.

On the roof of my 1975 Chevy Impala: 18 sheets of plywood.
in the back seat: 20 rolls of asphalt roofing.
in the trunk: 10 more rolls of roofing and 5 buckets of tar, and several boxes of nails.

on the radio in a perfect world would have been War “Low Rider”…

Cars back then were tanks; even with all that weight it probably only squatted about an inch.....

Our neighbors back around 1975 had a four door Mercury sedan; don't know the model. I do remember that you could practically stand up and walk around the back seat area because there was so much room.

 

[nisaacs]

Can some of you guys explain this rig? Kind of a poor picture, I took it with my cell phone off a video. It was a video of a custom harvesting/transport crew on the move. Most of the trucks were semis towing two big trailers. First trailer was hauling the combine and the second trailer was towing the header.

With that type hitch there is no weight on the pickup plus he is double towing a fuel trailer. It looks sketchy to me, but maybe it is legit?

 

[aczlan]

Can some of you guys explain this rig? Kind of a poor picture, I took it with my cell phone off a video. It was a video of a custom harvesting/transport crew on the move. Most of the trucks were semis towing two big trailers. First trailer was hauling the combine and the second trailer was towing the header.

With that type hitch there is no weight on the pickup plus he is double towing a fuel trailer. It looks sketchy to me, but maybe it is legit?

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That is called a header trailer, very common, but not as common towing doubles like that.
I would think that he would put the 2 axle fuel trailer first as it will track better in a hard stop (especially if full), but if they all have brakes?


Aaron Z

 

[nisaacs]

That is called a header trailer, very common, but not as common towing doubles like that.
I would think that he would put the 2 axle fuel trailer first as it will track better in a hard stop (especially if full), but if they all have brakes?


Aaron Z

The fact he is towing it with a pickup is what is bugging me. I can see it if it was a big truck. I would guess his load is about double what the pickup weighs. I tow heavy but always have part of the towed weight on the pickup. Some of those trailers are up to 20k gvw. I would think traction/control would be a problem with an empty pickup.

 

[coldsteelva]

I'm not familiar: Is this for combine/thresher head transportation?

 

[aczlan]

The fact he is towing it with a pickup is what is bugging me. I can see it if it was a big truck. I would guess his load is about double what the pickup weighs. I tow heavy but always have part of the towed weight on the pickup. Some of those trailers are up to 20k gvw. I would think traction/control would be a problem with an empty pickup.

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20k is a lot of weight, any idea how far they are going?
It does look like there is something in the bed of the truck, so hopefully they have some extra weight to help keep it pointed in the right direction...

I'm not familiar: Is this for combine/thresher head transportation?

Yes, a larger head is way too wide to fit down the road on the front of the combine.

Aaron Z

 

[4570Man]

Can some of you guys explain this rig? Kind of a poor picture, I took it with my cell phone off a video. It was a video of a custom harvesting/transport crew on the move. Most of the trucks were semis towing two big trailers. First trailer was hauling the combine and the second trailer was towing the header.

With that type hitch there is no weight on the pickup plus he is double towing a fuel trailer. It looks sketchy to me, but maybe it is legit?

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It’s probably pretty safe with the first trailer being so long assuming both trailers have brakes. But when you’re towing doubles the first trailer is required to be a 5th wheel.

 

[azbinder]

Keep in mind that this farm machinery and therefore there is some leeway. Not saying that it shouldn't be hooked to a bigger truck though. I used to pull 30' trailers of cotton with a 1/2 ton pickup. Could get squirrely sometimes.

 

[kevin37b]

Expert opinions with no knowledge , as per usual .

 

[oliver1555]

Nick,

A lot of it depends on who is using it - private farmer or custom/for hire, and the state in which they operate. We retired to Missouri to my wife's family farm and I work part time for some farmers. They have two combines and a corn head and draper head for each. They farm a little over 5,000 acres, spread out over two counties. So, that entails a lot of moving of equipment. They have several header trailers, none of which have brakes. I believe the 16 row corn heads weigh right around 12,000#. I'm not sure what the drapers weigh. That means having both heads at a particular place, as they raise both soybeans and corn, (and sometimes wheat). When we move, it's usually two combines, four heads and trailers, a tractor and 1000 bushel grain cart (sometimes two), and four semis. Mostly, it's just a few of us moving a few machines at a time so it doesn't all look like a circus parade. If that is a custom outfit in your pic, I can't imagine they would have the fuel trailer full, but could be wrong.

To drive a farmers's tractor/trailer in Missouri, no CDL is required within a 150 mile radius of the home base and it's not for hire. I'm not sure what you are allowed in other states. Also, during harvest, we get a 10% overage on weight, so can be legal at 88,000#. Personally, I'd like to see drivers required to have CDL training...

Bud