Anyone ever "delete" the dpf on a tractor?

   / Anyone ever "delete" the dpf on a tractor? #91  
Makes no sense. In PA, agriculture is allowed to be 12’ wide. I see guys going down the road over width with bales all the time.
102” is standard max width for everything else.
Also, you don’t need a log book unless you are running apportioned plates. I actually gave up my apportioned plates years ago because I hated log books
Actually it's 108" not 102". Federal DOT increased the width requirement to 108" a few years ago to allow for 102" wide trailers with sliding curtains on them that increase the width to 108". Better read the regs. Furthermore, log books are required with any commercial vehicle (with DOT numbers) on them and that includes pick up trucks. Care to cite the link in PA where you can have ANY load (ag or otherwise 12 feet wide and be legal without an overwidth permit). Talk is cheap, Cite the regulation and post it here. Until then I say your are FOS.
 
   / Anyone ever "delete" the dpf on a tractor? #92  
Actually it's 108" not 102". Federal DOT increased the width requirement to 108" a few years ago to allow for 102" wide trailers with sliding curtains on them that increase the width to 108". Better read the regs. Furthermore, log books are required with any commercial vehicle (with DOT numbers) on them and that includes pick up trucks. Care to cite the link in PA where you can have ANY load (ag or otherwise 12 feet wide and be legal without an overwidth permit). Talk is cheap, Cite the regulation and post it here. Until then I say your are FOS.
Here ya go genius.
1. Last time I checked 8 feet 6 inches is 102 inches. I live in PA and follow PA’s laws. See below.
2. Furthermore, 12’ IS LEGAL legal for vehicles carrying crops like hay bales.

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Look who’s FOS now?

YOU!!
 
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   / Anyone ever "delete" the dpf on a tractor? #93  
From the DOT/FHA website:

WIDTH REQUIREMENTS​


The maximum width limit for CMVs on the NN and reasonable access routes was originally established at 102 inches, except for Hawaii where it is 2.74 m (108 inches). (See discussion of Reasonable Access on page 12.) To standardize vehicle width on an international basis, the 102-inch width limit was interpreted to mean the same as its approximate metric equivalent, 2.6 meters (102.36 inches) (Figure 1).


Federal width limits do not apply to special mobile equipment, which consists of self-propelled vehicles not designed or used primar-ily for the transportation of persons or property and only incidentally moved over the highways. Special mobile equipment includes the following, when moving under their own power: military or farm equipment; instruments of husbandry; road construction or maintenance machinery; and emergency apparatus, including police and fire emergency equipment. Federal rules do not require States to issue overwidth permits before allowing operation of special mobile equipment. However, if States wish to allow other vehicles more than 102 inches wide (i.e. non-special mobile equipment) to operate on the NN, then States must issue special overwidth permits.


So, unless you operate in Hawaii, maximum width is 102 inches.
HOWEVER, having operated a couple of trailers with Conestoga kits (sliding tarp systems) on them which were ~ 106 inches wide, I have never heard of anyone with one installed being written up for being over width.
 
   / Anyone ever "delete" the dpf on a tractor? #94  
So, unless you operate in Hawaii, maximum width is 102 inches.
HOWEVER, having operated a couple of trailers with Conestoga kits (sliding tarp systems) on them which were ~ 106 inches wide, I have never heard of anyone with one installed being written up for being over width.
All I ran the last 5 years prior to retirement and ours was 108" wide with the slide tarp mounted on the rub rails. I pulled a Reitnauer 8 axle spread on air. 10-2 between the front axle 6 tight on air and the rear axle was 36 on center. Trailer was 53 foot long. We were never bothered in Ohio, Michigan or Indiana. In fact, I was never pulled over for a DOT inspection, our equipment was always top shelf, 2 year old or newer Western Star conventionals with big motors and 13 or 18 speed Roadrangers.

I could legally roll 104 thousand every day in Michigan and Ohio and Indiana on over weight permits. Trucks were kicker plated for 161 thousand GVW.

The regs say 102. Have a copy here. Various states can alter the max width requirement but on an interstate highway, the 102 applies.

Why I called Hay Dude on his comment. I know what it says. No way anyone is legal on any road (without permits) hauling round bales side by side if they are 5 footers. You might get away with it for a while but sooner or later you will get pinched. Not legal and never will be but then it's up to the officers discretion.

The farm equipment exemption is everywhere I know of. I'm regularly pulling implements over 10 feet wide on secondary roads and of course all the required SMV placards in place and amber flashing lights plus a amber beacon on the roof of the tractor. One time I got done after dark and was coming home (all lit up of course) and picked up a State Highway Patrol car and he followed me hone and went on his way. Guess he didn't have anything pressing to do.
 
   / Anyone ever "delete" the dpf on a tractor? #96  
All I ran the last 5 years prior to retirement and ours was 108" wide with the slide tarp mounted on the rub rails. I pulled a Reitnauer 8 axle spread on air. 10-2 between the front axle 6 tight on air and the rear axle was 36 on center. Trailer was 53 foot long. We were never bothered in Ohio, Michigan or Indiana. In fact, I was never pulled over for a DOT inspection, our equipment was always top shelf, 2 year old or newer Western Star conventionals with big motors and 13 or 18 speed Roadrangers.

I could legally roll 104 thousand every day in Michigan and Ohio and Indiana on over weight permits. Trucks were kicker plated for 161 thousand GVW.

The regs say 102. Have a copy here. Various states can alter the max width requirement but on an interstate highway, the 102 applies.

Why I called Hay Dude on his comment. I know what it says. No way anyone is legal on any road (without permits) hauling round bales side by side if they are 5 footers. You might get away with it for a while but sooner or later you will get pinched. Not legal and never will be but then it's up to the officers discretion.

The farm equipment exemption is everywhere I know of. I'm regularly pulling implements over 10 feet wide on secondary roads and of course all the required SMV placards in place and amber flashing lights plus a amber beacon on the roof of the tractor. One time I got done after dark and was coming home (all lit up of course) and picked up a State Highway Patrol car and he followed me hone and went on his way. Guess he didn't have anything pressing to do.

Your ignorance on this matter is astounding and your attitude towards anyone who shows you what the LAW says is even more proof you don’t know what you’re talking about!
It doesn’t matter what truck you drive or how many gears it has. lol

So now you see the LAW in black and white and what the LAW says…… not what 5030 says the law is……and you continue to deny it. Bottom line is: You don’t know the LAW.

And now that you see it’s LEGAL to haul round bales (or any other AG products) down the road up to 12’ WIDE, you can see your claim that 10’ wide with round bales being illegal is BS, too.

I have been hauling hay over 10’ wide all over the 3 state area for the last 25 years on goosenecks and flatbed trucks and NEVER had an issue with hay over 102” width. Even in mandatory roadside DOT stops, not a word has ever been said to me by an officer of the law concerning WIDTH of the hay I have hauled.
 
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   / Anyone ever "delete" the dpf on a tractor? #98  
Who would enforce that? Local law enforcement aren’t vehicle emissions cops. I wouldn’t chip my Cummins because everyone I know who has done that has had issues with burnt pistons and other engine failures. But hey, go for it if you want to.
Probably would not come up unless you tried to trade it in to a dealership.
 
   / Anyone ever "delete" the dpf on a tractor? #99  
Your ignorance on this matter is astounding and your attitude towards anyone who shows you what the LAW says is even more proof you don’t know what you’re talking about!
It doesn’t matter what truck you drive or how many gears it has. lol
I'm glad you 'appreciate' my comments as I appreciate yours (why you are the only poster on this site I keep on ignore). That way I can selectively read or not read your comments.

You can do whatever you want, haul whatever you want, don't matter to me in the slightest but keep in mind that you get the 'right' officer at the right time and you'll get pinched. Only a matter of time. Kind of like playing Russian Roulette. You never know when that chamber is the one with the cartridge in it. Getting time to go bale your mushroom grass isn't it?

You are the big operator here, I'm small potatoes and frankly, I like it that way just fine. Have a nice day....
 

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