Kioti parking brake failure...has this happened to you?

[Billrog]

For anyone who lives in a hilly area this may make it easier to use your E brake and mot wear the teeth out. And much easier to apply.

 

[vanskills]

Happened to me at 100 hours...that steel is way to soft

 

[JimR]

Happened to me at 100 hours...that steel is way to soft

If hardening of the metal won't work with a torch, you can take down the teeth a little bit and weld it back up. The weld will be much harder than the original steel.

 

[Billrog]

3,000 hrs. on CK27 no sign of wear. 400 hrs. on 2610 no sign of wear.

 

[gravel13]

Glad I found this thread. My Ck25 now had 800+ hrs but had started probably in the 600 range as it has been "slipping" out of park and when I looked under there mine is worn although not the the extent of the OP's but where it does hold on the lever is basically useless as I was parked on a hill using the backhoe. I will have to pull the lever off and see if welding on the teeth will be better than just cutting it out and replacing as the OP did.

 

[JimR]

Glad I found this thread. My Ck25 now had 800+ hrs but had started probably in the 600 range as it has been "slipping" out of park and when I looked under there mine is worn although not the the extent of the OP's but where it does hold on the lever is basically useless as I was parked on a hill using the backhoe. I will have to pull the lever off and see if welding on the teeth will be better than just cutting it out and replacing as the OP did.

Welding the teeth up should harden that area.

 

[hornett22]

Why not weld or bolt a steel plate next to it and cut new teeth wit a file? Seems like an easy fix.

 

[IndyIan]

Hmmm, I have near 800 hours on mine but haven't had an issue with the parking brake. I use it all the time too. I should have a look at it though.

 

[55RRR]

Slippage right around 100hrs. Not cool when swapping QA on a 10 percent slope. My workaround is to 1) angle the front tires so I don't have to hop a runaway train if the brake sproings out, and 2) rather than pushing down on the brake pedal then pulling up on the parking brake, I now first pull up on the parking brake while feathering the brake pedal. Somehow that engages better. Not a good situ.

 

[JimR]

Slippage right around 100hrs. Not cool when swapping QA on a 10 percent slope. My workaround is to 1) angle the front tires so I don't have to hop a runaway train if the brake sproings out, and 2) rather than pushing down on the brake pedal then pulling up on the parking brake, I now first pull up on the parking brake while feathering the brake pedal. Somehow that engages better. Not a good situ.

Your brake works the opposite of the NX4510 HST. You need to pull up your locking lever to lock the pedals down?

 

[55RRR]

Your brake works the opposite of the NX4510 HST. You need to pull up your locking lever to lock the pedals down?

Nope. By (lightly) pulling up on the locking lever while feathering down on the pedal, I can fine tune (and hear) how the teeth are engaging. If I go about it normally (pedal down then engage brake) it doesn't always catch.

 

[JimR]

Nope. By (lightly) pulling up on the locking lever while feathering down on the pedal, I can fine tune (and hear) how the teeth are engaging. If I go about it normally (pedal down then engage brake) it doesn't always catch.

Try pushing the brake down all the way. Then lift your locking lever and release the foot brake slowly.

 

[dfkrug]

OP here.

As noted at the beginning of this thread, I use my parking brake a LOT. Sometimes at the first click, and sometimes at the 2nd. What I do is press the brake pedal with my right foot while placing left foot lightly on the PB lever, pressing down. I press the brake pedal down just until I hear/feel the first click via my left foot. I go for 2 clicks when on steeper slopes, but then I have to push the brake pedal a lot harder.

 

[Billrog]

470 hrs. on my 1 yr. old 2610 checked the park brake teeth today and the paint is hardly wore of the them. I use the brake multiple times every living on a mt. side. I can only assume from this that if your taking the teeth off your emergency break your not applying it properly.

 

[gravel13]

470 hrs. on my 1 yr. old 2610 checked the park brake teeth today and the paint is hardly wore of the them. I use the brake multiple times every living on a mt. side. I can only assume from this that if your taking the teeth off your emergency break your not applying it properly.

Or possibly that Kioti sourced a different type of metal than they did back in 2005, which is what year my CK25 is. After further investigating my teeth weren't as badly worn as the OP's, rather the locking lever had a worn "slot" in it where it engages the teeth on the lever. I was able to remove the inner brake pedal and filled the worn slot with weld and now it works great.

 

[dfkrug]

Or possibly that Kioti sourced a different type of metal than they did back in 2005, which is what year my CK25 is.

That's true. My 2005 CK30 now at about 1000hr and no problems.

Metallurgy is important. This problem (that did not affect everyone) reminds me of the diff lock mech on my JD 4300s. One side of the dog clutch was worn so much, the DL would not engage. The other side, pristine. Some folks never use the DL; others, all the time. So not every 4300 manifested this problem. Or they upgraded the steel used.

 

[55RRR]

Try pushing the brake down all the way. Then lift your locking lever and release the foot brake slowly.

Thank you yes, that improved the reliability.