Electric vehicles during a disaster

[MossRoad]

A few days? From what I can see, Norway is about 1000 miles long north to south. It is not unusual for me to drive 1000 miles in one day. Never been to Norway, but different driving conditions I'm sure. I set the cruise at 82 mph (about 132 kph) and drive till I need a break or fuel. Many places I can see the highway for 20 miles down the road, and traffic is minimal.
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As of yet, EV charging stations are hard to find.

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For fun I used google maps and asked to go from Svartnes on the NE coast to Oslo, down at the southern tip.

It said it’s a 24 hour drive.

 

[Cub 7275]

I guess we should ask someone from Norway how they like things there. Oh wait. We did. And he likes it.

Now we should tell him he’s a fool for liking it, because Norway is nothing like the American West.

He likes his EV and thats great. Why do you assume anyone thinks he's a fool? If I lived in Norway no doubt I'd own EVs and at least one ICE vehicle. The point is that Norway is not here and saying something works in Norway is not a guarantee it would work here. Apples to oranges.

 

[MossRoad]

He likes his EV and thats great. Why do you assume anyone thinks he's a fool? If I lived in Norway no doubt I'd own EVs and at least one ICE vehicle. The point is that Norway is not here and saying something works in Norway is not a guarantee it would work here. Apples to oranges.

Exactly.

 

[ponytug]

For those backing up the grid, they should repay y'all the same peek demand rates they charge you, and drop the basic hookup fees. Not the wholesale rate. It saves them a fortune not having to build more plants. They could raise the peak demand rates to the users to cover their transmission costs.

In the current program, it is $2/kWh, so actually above peak (spot) pricing. A Ford E-150 Lightning hooked up to a 2way charger would have made bucket loads of cash.

As you wrote, the utility saves bucket loads of money. Like many (most? all?) others, our utility has a cost plus 10% business model due to the utility commission regulations. That means that they are incentivized to build large capital projects, as that bakes in 10% profit. Locally, we have had more than a few peaker plants that were built, and then decommissioned after only a few years.

All the best,

Peter

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Well...mark my words: with the proliferation of more EVs this idea of EV's getting charged in the wee hours of the morning, not during peak hours, the wee hours of the morning will BECOME peak hours.
Everyone's electric bill will increase, even those not owning an EV.
Everyone's.

 

[MossRoad]

…
Everyone's electric bill will increase, even those not owning an EV.
Everyone's.

Has anyone’s ever gone down before EVs?

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

More timely… a coworker and I were traveling for a training event… he got a call about a family emergency… his Tesla was at 15% as he had planned to charge that evening. He couldn’t leave to go home, he had to park and charge, and wait to drive 200 miles.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

In a test, the Ford Lightning EV pulled a 6000lb travel trailer, a whopping 88 miles before needing to be charge.

They also need 12 hours on 220 to recharge. Sounds amazing!

 

[cqaigy2]

About once a month we find a Tesla sitting on the side of the road waiting on the tow truck because they over estimated the distance between charge stations. 110 degree weather can zap a battery.
For now I'll stick with our hybrids for running around and trucks for work and hauling. Not ready for pure EV.
Would love to get the new Ford Lightning if it could tow our trailer the 1,200 miles we run every two months.

Ok, so you are trying to convince me that you see a tesla sitting on the side of the road, almost every month, then you're telling me that you've talked to each and everyone of them, cause, well your a good Samaritan, and each of them told you they over estimated the distance. Well, i for one believe you and i'm interested in buying that bridger you were talking about.

 

[MossRoad]

 

[cqaigy2]

More timely… a coworker and I were traveling for a training event… he got a call about a family emergency… his Tesla was at 15% as he had planned to charge that evening. He couldn’t leave to go home, he had to park and charge, and wait to drive 200 miles.

A family "emergency" that doesn't seem like it was a big deal if he could lollygag around, waiting for his car to charge.

 

[cqaigy2]

Well...mark my words: with the proliferation of more EVs this idea of EV's getting charged in the wee hours of the morning, not during peak hours, the wee hours of the morning will BECOME peak hours.
Everyone's electric bill will increase, even those not owning an EV.
Everyone's.

My electric bill has been going up, before any EVs were around. Must be because of all those ICE machines.

 

[cqaigy2]

Exactly what I do unless I pass a slower vehicle (rarely), then I'll increases my speed to 75 or so until I get passed, then drop back to 65.

Amazing part is I'm usually motoring along with no one tailgating me unlike those driving hell bent for heaven in the fast lane because there is always someone who wants to go faster so invariably going 80 bumper to bumper which is an bad accident waiting to happen.... and does regularly.

Zactly how i drive. Stay in the right lane, speed up to pass, get back over into the right lane.

 

[MossRoad]

Zactly how i drive. Stay in the right lane, speed up to pass, get back over into the right lane.

Get outa my way!

 

[MossRoad]

These signs are there to tell you that I am on the road nearby….

 

[MossRoad]

When our kids were small I used to tell them that was the Watch For Crazy Drivers sign.

They believed it well into their teens.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Has anyone’s ever gone down before EVs?

No...but this will be a quantum leap. Mark my words.
Oh...unless one believes it's part of the $billions "infrastructure", so pay via taxes.
No free lunch.

 

[ruffdog]

Zactly how i drive. Stay in the right lane, speed up to pass, get back over into the right lane.

These signs are there to tell you that I am on the road nearby….

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So that is what that sign means.............

 

[MossRoad]

No...but this will be a quantum leap. Mark my words.
Oh...unless one believes it's part of the $billions "infrastructure", so pay via taxes.
No free lunch.

Yep, your electric bill will go up. Your gasoline bill will go down.

Most EV owners will tell you that the savings spent on getting them from point A to point B is much more costly with gas VS electric.

Yes, there will be electric infrastructure that will have to be built/upgraded. And yes, those costs will go on to consumers like you and me.

I don’t think you and I will have to worry that much about those costs in the near future, as ICE vehicle sales aren’t expected to peak until 2035. So we still have time to make changes and adjustments. And, there’ll still be hundreds of millions of ICE cars on the road for a few decades.

 

[RoyJackson]

I think much of this thread and posters understand that EV are an interim solution, at least in the US and rural areas.
I'd written in a previous post (weeks ago) that I think hydrogen, once practical storage is determined, is the fuel of the future for vehicles