2022 L3302

[GMtb42]

Bought the Kibota L3302 with a backhoe, took delivery of the tractor late in the evening, didn’t get to play with it that day, the next day I went out to play around with it, be darn, the backhoe had leaked fluid on the ground over night. A brand new tractor less than 2 hours on it leaking.
Called dealer, sent someone out, also noticed the backhoe mounting frame was not bolted up correctly to the tractor missing bolts, wrong bolts.
This isn’t the worst part, they kept the tractor for a few days, changed out the backhoe mounting frame, put correct number of bolts in, said they fixed the fluid leak on the backhoe, well used the backhoe yesterday and bam, leaking again, called dealer and they’re a no show on fixing it again.
What the heck has gone wrong with businesses? They don’t seem to care anymore, they take your money but give you defective products.

 

[claggstractors]

Man, that is rough. Probably not a bad idea to check all the fluids, and look over it for any rubbing hoses and such. Sounds the prep work for sale is more than lacking.

 

[GMtb42]

Forgot to add, when I used the backhoe it was gutless, no power, full throttle to drive the hydraulics with as much fluid power as I could get, I mean I know it’s not going to be like a dedicated backhoe, but really, thing has no power!

It’s like someone forgot to turn open a valve and it is not getting correct fluid flow.

 

[Roadworthy]

I'd begin by checking the torque on wheel lugs and loader frame mount as well as torque on backhoe mounts. Monitor fluid levels while using tractor. If you can't get a response from your dealer you could try dropping a line to Kubota corporate. Bear in mind the dealer response may be slow because this is his busy season. On the other hand the tractor should have been fine when delivered. By the way, checking those torques is part of the fifty hour inspection anyhow.

 

[LD1]

Let us know when the dealer gets back to you this time

 

[Thomas]

OUCH...I surprise head tech or delivery man didn't notice.

 

[GMtb42]

Well, dealer sent someone out, when they tried fixing it last time they used an aftermarket hose, it was twisted and the outer rubber had cracked, but that wasn’t where it was leaking, it’s the same place as it was the first time, told them I wanted OEM hose not aftermarket.
Also the thing has no power, I said something and the field tech said he could turn up the hydraulic pressure that it may be too low and causes the low power issue.
I’m really disgusted at a $38k dollar tractor that continues to leak and have problems.
Thinking about asking for my money back and just be done with the problems.

 

[LD1]

Not sure what the pic shows.....can't see "where" a leak is without further description.

I wouldn't be **** about wanting oem hose. Kubota doesn't make hoses, fittings, or even assemble them. Nothing wrong with aftermarket gates, Eaton, parker, etc. And probably better quality than oem.

As to be lacking power....first and foremost put a pressure gauge on it. And I'm surprised s field tech would even mention turning up pressure on a new machine without doing so. But keep in mind....it's not a mini-ex or construction grade hoe either.

Honestly.....I'd try and get my money back and return it if I were you. Cause it's clear you are already unhappy with Kubota and the dealer. So any issue you have in the future is just gonna add fuel to the fire. Best to part ways now and save both yourself and your dealer future headache

 

[GMtb42]

Not sure what the pic shows.....can't see "where" a leak is without further description.

I wouldn't be **** about wanting oem hose. Kubota doesn't make hoses, fittings, or even assemble them. Nothing wrong with aftermarket gates, Eaton, parker, etc. And probably better quality than oem.

As to be lacking power....first and foremost put a pressure gauge on it. And I'm surprised s field tech would even mention turning up pressure on a new machine without doing so. But keep in mind....it's not a mini-ex or construction grade hoe either.

Honestly.....I'd try and get my money back and return it if I were you. Cause it's clear you are already unhappy with Kubota and the dealer. So any issue you have in the future is just gonna add fuel to the fire. Best to part ways now and save both yourself and your dealer future headache

Didn’t read did you, the aftermarket hose split and obviously leaks.

When you can’t push loose soil that could be moved by hand there’s something wrong.

I agree with the dealer, very poor service from the start, sad, was told this was a premium tractor, but alas, got a premium problem.

 

[LD1]

Yes I read.

I can tell in the picture what is the new hose. Certainly don't see a split in a hose....

Did your dealer make the aftermarket hose? Or did someone else like a local shop?

What brand is the aftermarket hose? Made in China junk? Or a good eaton/gates/Parker etc?

$hit happens. They all break break down. And no one is perfect. If the dealer makes it right in the end that's all that matters IMO

 

[Tropical Jack]

I have a L3301 with backhoe(BH77). Although it is not an “excavator”, it has what I consider plenty of power. If I am not careful, I can drag the entire machine around while digging. Something is set up wrong. How is the lifting power on FEL?

Jack

 

[GMtb42]

Yes I read.

I can tell in the picture what is the new hose. Certainly don't see a split in a hose....

Did your dealer make the aftermarket hose? Or did someone else like a local shop?

What brand is the aftermarket hose? Made in China junk? Or a good eaton/gates/Parker etc?

$hit happens. They all break break down. And no one is perfect. If the dealer makes it right in the end that's all that matters IMO

Really buddy?
You just said aftermarket were good or better than OEM, now you change tunes, you don’t have to see for it to be so, arrogant aren’t we?

In the end the dealer can do whatever they want with the tractor I’m through with this $38k piece of trouble!

A premium tractor brand supposedly that is leaking from day one without the customer even using it, yeah such quality in workmanship.

The dealer putting an inferior hose on the tractor instead of ordering a new hose for a brand new tractor, the dealer is responsible for what products it uses whether they make it or someone else.
$38k mistake.

 

[GMtb42]

I have a L3301 with backhoe(BH77). Although it is not an “excavator”, it has what I consider plenty of power. If I am not careful, I can drag the entire machine around while digging. Something is set up wrong. How is the lifting power on FEL?

Jack

It seems okay, the FEL that is.
Yeah, I know it’s not going to be like a full sized dedicated backhoe, but come on, you can’t use it to move the tractor while digging or can’t use the bucket to sweep loose dirt back into the ditch, it’s pretty much useless then.

What was strange, it’s only happened once, I had the dipper extended and the bucket uncurled and lowered the boom to reach out further and everything just stopped responding, nothing would work, couldn’t curl, raise, draw in, swing, I thought maybe I had reached a restrictor or something, like it shut fluid off or something, I did something and it began working again, but I can’t remember what I did to make it work again.
Wondering if something got left in the hose or something is restricting the pump?!

I told the field tech and he couldn’t explain why it quit responding like that.

 

[Tropical Jack]

I obviously can’t say for sure-but I will offer one possible explanation. Occasionally when I raise or lower the outriggers, one of the valves for the outriggers will stick. Then the pressure relief kicks in, and I have to manually return it to neutral. I have bumped an outrigger valve control before. This can cause loss of pressure in the rest of the backhoe. Just a thought.

Jack

 

[GMtb42]

I obviously can’t say for sure-but I will offer one possible explanation. Occasionally when I raise or lower the outriggers, one of the valves for the outriggers will stick. Then the pressure relief kicks in, and I have to manually return it to neutral. I have bumped an outrigger valve control before. This can cause loss of pressure in the rest of the backhoe. Just a thought.

Jack

The outrigger valve wasn’t in play here, they had not been touched and were at their neutral position, but a stick valve would explain it possibly.

Can you use the boom to raise your tractor and then push it with the dipper?
I’m talking, I tried that with the tractor was on level ground FEL up so all that the dipper need to do was push the tractor and make it roll, it wouldn’t?
Can to curl your bucket while pulling backwards, I can’t.

 

[azbinder]

You should be able to lift the rear wheel off the ground and then move the tractor forwards, rearward, or sideways with the backhoe. I've done it with a little BX unit. If you can't do this then there may be something wrong. I have dug trenches with a B7800 tlb and moved the tractor forward with no issues. Just raise and lower the loader as needed.

 

[GMtb42]

You should be able to lift the rear wheel off the ground and then move the tractor forwards, rearward, or sideways with the backhoe. I've done it with a little BX unit. If you can't do this then there may be something wrong. I have dug trenches with a B7800 tlb and moved the tractor forward with no issues. Just raise and lower the loader as needed.

It won’t, it creeps backwards when I tried to just roll it with the FEL off the ground, heck with the FEL bucket flat on the ground you should be able to push it backwards with the backhoe.

 

[azbinder]

It won’t, it creeps backwards when I tried to just roll it with the FEL off the ground, heck with the FEL bucket flat on the ground you should be able to push it backwards with the backhoe.

Do you leave the transmission in neutral?

 

[Tropical Jack]

Yes. I can move my tractor around with the backhoe.

Jack

 

[GMtb42]

Do you leave the transmission in neutral?

HST, brakes were not on, stabilizers were off ground, all it had to do was roll the machine on the tires, ground is fairly level.
There’s something wrong, and not user error.