Log splitter 4 point wedge

   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #61  
If you are referring to Sawyer Rob, his 4-way wedge is fixed only in the sense that it is not adjustable for height. It is easily removable, so yo have the option of a single wedge. I've used those Timberwolf splitters extensively - both 3 Pt Hitch and stand alone models. I've also used a lot of other brands of splitters. I've never found any that I like as much as the Timberwolf (at least the Timberwolf models before they were bought out. I have not used the different models made under the new ownership.) I own an American CLS splitter. It's "almost as good" as a Timberwolf. I got a good deal on it. If I saw a similar deal on one of the old-style Timberwolf TW5 stand-alone splitters, I would selling mine and jump on the TW5.
You would have to be blind to not see the design differences in the Timberwolf and the picts LD1 posted!

Look how much longer the wings are on the TW 4-way, it allows me to move the round to one side and split it waay off center to give even more options when splitting.

There are other BIG design improvements on the TW 4-way too, but some folks just refuse to see things like that.

SR
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #62  
Sometimes you’ve got to point stuff out to us and most of us don’t have a high end splitter.
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #63  
Mine is a splitter I made 10 years ago for speed, not power. 22gpm paired with 4" cylinder.

It is very fast, effective, and efficient at splitting nice rounds into firewood.

So nasty crotch pieces or trying to split off a single wing is not it's fortè. Not what it was made for.

Yes, more than one way to skin a cat.

We each have to find our own thing that works for us.

Like I said.....we are all arguing the semantics of a log splitter and guys that run a processor are probably reading this and shaking their heads at how foolish we look. Just the same as we would be shaking our heads at the guys with the little bottle jack harbor freight splitters.

But they are all better than swinging maul all day
 
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   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #64  
You would have to be blind to not see the design differences in the Timberwolf and the picts LD1 posted!

Look how much longer the wings are on the TW 4-way, it allows me to move the round to one side and split it waay off center to give even more options when splitting.

There are other BIG design improvements on the TW 4-way too, but some folks just refuse to see things like that.

SR
I've read a LOT of your posts and looked at a LOT of pics of your splitting operation. I would never consider doing it that way. What is labor saving to you is time wasted to me. But that's okay. It's your choice. I hope I never appear to be as condescending to you as you are to others. It's just differences in opinion. I'm happy that you are happy with your equipment and way of doing things. :)
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #65  
I hope I never appear to be as condescending to you as you are to others. It's just differences in opinion. I'm happy that you are happy with your equipment and way of doing things. :)
You already have been, toward me...but that was a long time ago.

BUT, when someone post something like this,

[But aparently at least one person likes a fixed and non-removable 4-way, and runs everything through it, and has little to now waste. And the rest of us with a slip on 4-way that remove and only use when the right pieces come along, our 4-ways are of inferior design.]

THAT person gets back an equally condescending reply... IF you can't take it, don't dish it out.

SR
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #66  
You already have been, toward me...but that was a long time ago.

BUT, when someone post something like this,

[But aparently at least one person likes a fixed and non-removable 4-way, and runs everything through it, and has little to now waste. And the rest of us with a slip on 4-way that remove and only use when the right pieces come along, our 4-ways are of inferior design.]

THAT person gets back an equally condescending reply... IF you can't take it, don't dish it out.

SR
You'll have to refresh my memory? If I've been condescending to you without cause I apologize.

Firewood processing seems to bring out strong opinions. Kinda like tractor color. Or engine oil type.

I accept how you process wood as being the best method that you know how to do. Same with everyone else here. We each have our own circumstances. :)
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #67  
You'll have to refresh my memory? If I've been condescending to you without cause I apologize.
EVERYONE "thinks" they have good cause, when they do it... lol

LD1 thinks he did when he posted, and I think I did with my answer... lol

The fact that you don't remember tells me you thought you had good cause at that time too. But, It's OK, I had a good come back for ya... ha ha ha

SR
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #68  
EVERYONE "thinks" they have good cause, when they do it... lol

LD1 thinks he did when he posted, and I think I did with my answer... lol

The fact that you don't remember tells me you thought you had good cause at that time too. But, It's OK, I had a good come back for ya... ha ha ha

SR
Actually it's frequent to see members post condescending statements with no cause at all. It's the "My way or the highway" syndrome. :sneaky:
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #69  
MY Way, speaks for it's self! I can't help it if no one else sees it that way.

;-)

and though I have never tried one, I do not believe I would enjoy a four way that was bolted on. The wood I see always has crotches and knots that would labor the machine excessively.
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #70  
You already have been, toward me...but that was a long time ago.

BUT, when someone post something like this,

[But aparently at least one person likes a fixed and non-removable 4-way, and runs everything through it, and has little to now waste. And the rest of us with a slip on 4-way that remove and only use when the right pieces come along, our 4-ways are of inferior design.]

THAT person gets back an equally condescending reply... IF you can't take it, don't dish it out.

SR
You quoting me quoting you. What I said was not condescending. IT was a factual statement.

The fact that no one else on this post has said they use a fixed 4-way for everything. And all have said they share the same concerns I have, and that is too much waste or kindling.

The OP was asking about a bolt on (not easily removable) 4-way. People were sharing the drawbacks. As was I and why I prefer a slip on 4-way.

YOU are the one that said my splitter was of poor design. So when I paraphrase what you said, you deem that condescending?? And you are the ONLY one on this thread that doesnt seem to generate undesirable splits with you 4-way that you run everything through. And thats fine, it works for you and thats all that matters.

Everyone has a way that works for them. And most of us here have probably been splitting wood for 25+ years. And have many different methods of splitting and splitting equipment, as well as saws, and wood handling in general. All of us trying to accomplish the SAME thing. And that is the MOST efficient way we can handle/process wood with the equipment we have. Tractors, trailers, dump trailers, log lifts, grapples, pallets, totes, 4-way wedges, etc etc. Our goals are all the same....most amount of firewood in the least amount of time.
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #71  
Best time/work saving advice I can give.. if you can.. drag/haul the logs directly to where they're going to be split ..cut to length.. then go straight on splitter... Have splitter positioned to be able to stack directly on wood stack.. that's saved me more time and back ache than worrying about a four way wedge
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #72  
YOU are the one that said my splitter was of poor design. So when I paraphrase what you said, you deem that condescending?? And you are the ONLY one on this thread that doesnt seem to generate undesirable splits with you 4-way that you run everything through. And thats fine, it works for you and thats all that matters.
I didn't think I said your splitter is a poor design, I said your 4-way is a poor design and it is! lol IF, it works like YOU say it does!

Also, I told how MY 4-way works, but you can't accept that. So, yours don't work, and mine does, so all I'm left with is, design issues with the one that doesn't work.

I guess it could be that you want pretty splits, so they sell better?? I don't care how mine look, as long as they fit my stove and burn...

That's it in a nutshell, time to move on...

SR
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #73  
I didn't think I said your splitter is a poor design, I said your 4-way is a poor design and it is! lol IF, it works like YOU say it does!

Also, I told how MY 4-way works, but you can't accept that. So, yours don't work, and mine does, so all I'm left with is, design issues with the one that doesn't work.

I guess it could be that you want pretty splits, so they sell better?? I don't care how mine look, as long as they fit my stove and burn...

That's it in a nutshell, time to move on...

SR
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Just to set the record straight.

But agree, time to move on. We all have our own methods that we have modified, improved upon, and taylored to suite our needs.

Yes I sell wood, and yes customers want "pretty" wood that stacks nice and not a bunch of trash and uneven splits and kindling left behind.

My operation has me handling wood ONE and ONLY one time with my bare hands. Thats when I pick a round to put on the splitting table. Its efficient for me. All other times it is handle in mass by equipment
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #75  
I might unbolt the moving wedge on my horiz/vert splitter and see if one of my fabrication-minded coworkers can whip up a 4-way slip-on wedge for me. I don't mind getting plenty of small pieces. Like John MC said, small pieces burn more efficiently, meaning you get more BTUs per lb of wood, and a cleaner chimney. Plus I need them for starting up the woodstove anyway. My house is too efficient sometimes and we have to let the fire go out on cold days just to keep from overheating. So we re-start the stove a lot, sometimes twice a day.

What I'm more concerned about than small pieces, would be to find out that my "26-ton", 6.5HP splitter actually struggles to push normal wood through a 4-way. I think it would probably do straight grain walnut and cherry just fine (my main wood species).
 
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#76  
I don't understand the first one. Mine is similar to the black one. The coolest ones I've saw for small splitters actually slip over the 2way creating a 4way.

Mine hydraulically raises/lowers. Raised position is 4way, lowered 2way.
The Red picture is the current wedge on the splitter. The one on the right is the one I was wondering if it would fit. What model do you have and will it work in vertical position. Most of teh 4 way I have found state for horizontal use only.

Thank You!
Anyone ever attach a 4 point wedge to a Troy Built 27 ton log splitter? This Rugged Built seems like it might work.
Thank you!
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #77  
The Red picture is the current wedge on the splitter. The one on the right is the one I was wondering if it would fit. What model do you have and will it work in vertical position. Most of teh 4 way I have found state for horizontal use only.

Thank You!
My splitter is trailer mounted and does not rotate to vertical. Uses a hydraulic log lift. I bought it from Northern Tool.

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   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #79  
^ Dang, she's a beaut Richard.

But Nearly 12 thousand dollars..... ouch. (edit lol plus only $1,238 more to have it shipped).

I paid $7K 12 years ago. My shop burned destroying my previous homemade splitter. Insurance adjuster asked me the tonnage rating, I figured it up and told him 40T. He came back to me and said this was the only one he could find and would it be okay? I said sure. I had claimed a value of $1,500. I had/have "replacement" insurance. I will always have replacement insurance. :)
 
   / Log splitter 4 point wedge #80  
I’ve been splitting some wood lately and have revised my opinion on a 4 way wedge. On the right sized rounds I like it. It’s a little more critical you hit the round dead center with a 4 way or you end up with a piece that’s too big. It’s just slips off and on so easy so why not use it.
 
 

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