Seasoning Firewood

   / Seasoning Firewood #61  
A lot of people believe that ash is a great wood to burn green.
Ash dries faster than most hardwoods, which is probably what you're picking up on. You can get ash down to 20%MC after one summer of drying, as opposed to three summers for most specie of oak.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #62  
I think it depends on your local climate. I've known shed stored firewood to remain damp for years due to lack of draught and moist ambient air. My way is to ring bark the tree and let it dry standing for one season, then leave it in a pile uncovered for another season, then bring it to the shed in late summer ready for burning. Those neatly stacked piles of wood are not really drying out much. In countries that mostly burn pine wood, extra care is needed due to the flammable sap content.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #63  
I think it depends on your local climate. I've known shed stored firewood to remain damp for years due to lack of draught and moist ambient air. My way is to ring bark the tree and let it dry standing for one season, then leave it in a pile uncovered for another season, then bring it to the shed in late summer ready for burning. Those neatly stacked piles of wood are not really drying out much. In countries that mostly burn pine wood, extra care is needed due to the flammable sap content.
There are always exceptions, such as poorly-designed sheds that prevent sufficient airflow, but that would be an exceptional case. In general, wood does not dry very well at all in log form, in fact in most parts of the US where it's cold enough to desire wood heat, the climate is such that the logs will rot before they dry. The general (and proven) advice is to get it split and stacked ASAP, only then does the drying really begin.

But it's not difficult to figure this out, or to prove out your own case. Buy a moisture meter, many options accurate enough for firewood can be had for $30 - $50.

I can say my wood dries better and faster, and stays dry better thru acute weather events, under my shed roofs than it ever did out in the open or covered with tarps. I also have logs piled, typically 1 - 3 years backlog, but sometimes getting backed up as far as 4+ years. In general, any log I can't get split and stacked within 1 year starts losing value, and is pretty much toast by 3 years.

But under the cover of a shed, it can last many years. The wood I'm burning right now is mostly red oak and hickory felled May 2019, and split and stacked under the shed roofs I had pictured above in autumn 2019.
 
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   / Seasoning Firewood #64  
A lot of people believe that ash is a great wood to burn green. (Ashwood wet or ashwood dry, a king can warm his slippers by)
I have never found that to be the case. For the past week I've been burning About 6 weeks ago I brought home some ash which was cut in the fall of 2021 and left on the log landing in various lengths. I cut and split it, and putit in the wood shed. I tried burning a few pieces this week and there was more water running out of it as it sizzled than I've ever seen.
Weird. I've never had trouble burning ash, certainly not after it's seasoned for a year.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #65  
Using a moisture meter is definitely a good idea to know for sure (especially if you are buying your firewood). They are not that expensive (think Harbor Freight) and well worth it. I like to periodically check how dry my firewood is ( I harvest and process all our firewood). My goal is to keep it under 15% before burning. The stuff I am burning now is about 10-11% and has aged 2 yrs. Historically, most of what I burn is a year old.

As far as storage to dry, I got tired of tarps and pallets. Both would deteriorate over time and I always needed to remove snow off the top and some of the wood would end up getting wet anyway. Decided to build a shed a couple years ago and it has worked out great. Only wish I did it sooner. The sides and floor are spaced to allow air venting and really seems to make a difference.

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What the size of that shed, I been storing wood like you past 20 year, this year a shed is getting built.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #66  
Maritime climate:


I grew up in a dry climate so had to relearn some things as far as seasoning firewood.

In this locale, the winter drops a fair amount of rain over long periods, the ground is damp and any tarp to the ground turns into a good way to provide a nice damp environment. Any wood left on the ground will rot, get chewed up by carpenter ants and termites. So what i've done is built my wood shed so the floor is slightly higher, gravel with plastic to reduce moisture coming up from the soil. The structure is a pole type building with walls 2x4 and cedar fencing slats stapled on alternate sides to promote air flow. Shed style roof with the high end open and oriented on prevailing air flow. Roof is clear PVC with 2 foot over hangs. Eight foot deep, by 16 foot long. Walls on the short end are 8 foot with 12 foot high on the open end.

Basically the shed is divided in two with wood being burned in alternate sides. Typically some split and mostly unsplit rounds would go in and i'd hand split what i needed on an ongoing process, thru out the cool weather.

So far the only wood i've had trouble getting to dry is unsplit oak rounds, that took two years with burning on the 3rd. I now have a wood splitter so i might change it up a bit by splitting more wood as it goes into the shed.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #67  
I usually get a load of logs in winter, between now and April. If winter isn't to bad I get out and cut logs into 17" pieces, in April / May I will split to size, leaved piled up until September. Usually get enough wood for 2 season out of a load of logs. The stuff I split this spring will get burn this coming winter. I never have issue with wet wood, clean the chimney and stove pipe every fall with minimal creosol.

I have been stacking in rows on pallets covered with plastic. It works but shed seems like a nice upgrade. Was going to do it last year but lumber was crazy high around here. I like the way you designed yours, hope you don't mind it will be my starting point on my build.

I been doing this for over 20 yrs, I am like a few on here that getting up in age and getting to point when least amount of handling the better things will be. Plan on upgrading my Kioti tractor this spring which will be geared towards my fire wood operation. Have to try and make it fun too :)

I will say TBN has guys on here that come up with some great ideas, appreciated that they share them with others!

Happy New Year
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #68  
What the size of that shed, I been storing wood like you past 20 year, this year a shed is getting built.
Its 10' by 24'. Definitely adequate for my needs.
It was a fun project. You won't regret having one. (y)
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #69  
I usually get a load of logs in winter, between now and April. If winter isn't to bad I get out and cut logs into 17" pieces, in April / May I will split to size, leaved piled up until September. Usually get enough wood for 2 season out of a load of logs. The stuff I split this spring will get burn this coming winter. I never have issue with wet wood, clean the chimney and stove pipe every fall with minimal creosol.

I have been stacking in rows on pallets covered with plastic. It works but shed seems like a nice upgrade. Was going to do it last year but lumber was crazy high around here. I like the way you designed yours, hope you don't mind it will be my starting point on my build.

I been doing this for over 20 yrs, I am like a few on here that getting up in age and getting to point when least amount of handling the better things will be. Plan on upgrading my Kioti tractor this spring which will be geared towards my fire wood operation. Have to try and make it fun too :)

I will say TBN has guys on here that come up with some great ideas, appreciated that they share them with others!

Happy New Year
Appreciate the compliment, thanks.

Fortunately, I built it before all the lumber craziness started......guess I got lucky timing-wise. The rough cut lumber I used for siding was from a local guy and was very reasonable.

Look forward to hearing about your progress. You might consider starting a thread during your build so others can get some ideas or offer some to you. Kinda wish I did.....but I guess I was too busy building the shed...LOL.

Best of luck with yours. I'm no pro by any stretch of the imagination, but if you have any more questions on mine that might be helpful to you, let me know.

Happy New Year!
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #70  
When we bought our farm, it came with a 12X24 corrugated wood shed. The south facing wall was rusted out. After welding up the old steel frame we used the poly clear roof panels as the wall. So I kind of made a wood greenhouse. It is full of cherry that was cut and split last spring and has baked in there all summer. It is nice and dry so it really puts out the BTU's. We don't burn any pine or soft wood.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #71  
When we bought our farm, it came with a 12X24 corrugated wood shed. The south facing wall was rusted out. After welding up the old steel frame we used the poly clear roof panels as the wall. So I kind of made a wood greenhouse. It is full of cherry that was cut and split last spring and has baked in there all summer. It is nice and dry so it really puts out the BTU's. We don't burn any pine or soft wood.
I see you have cherry. Does the bark on it act like a rubber coating? Mine does and i have to score the bark on both side of where i'm going to split it. At least when im hand splitting it.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #72  
I see you have cherry. Does the bark on it act like a rubber coating? Mine does and i have to score the bark on both side of where i'm going to split it. At least when im hand splitting it.
I use a 25 ton hydraulic splitter, I've never tried splitting cherry by hand so I couldn't tell you.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #73  
And I forgot to mention, for the last 2 years we burned almost nothing but ash for 2 years thanks to the boring beetle. I only took down the cherry to make room for my orchard. The cherry definitely burns hotter. The woodshed greenhouse really seems to get it dry.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #74  
I've split some cherry, many years ago by hand, and more recently with hydraulics. Usually the bark has a split or check in it somewhere, and it unrolls at that location. Yeah, the bark is too gummy to split on its own, but peels off rather easily, unless the log is real fresh.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #75  
When we bought our farm, it came with a 12X24 corrugated wood shed. The south facing wall was rusted out. After welding up the old steel frame we used the poly clear roof panels as the wall. So I kind of made a wood greenhouse. It is full of cherry that was cut and split last spring and has baked in there all summer. It is nice and dry so it really puts out the BTU's. We don't burn any pine or soft wood.
I have clear poly panels two sides of a building, best idea that relatives had for wood storage. I inherited the building, it really helps in the drying process.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #76  
Good thread. Some very nice woodsheds in here, but I can't help but think of the repetitive handling whenever I see one. That's the way my dad operated when I was a kid also, we'd take the lawn tractor and 10cu cart over to the woodshed, load it up and back over to the house to unload and stack. I thought it was all fun. Now I am 39, back is starting to ache, and never have any time. So I bought IBC totes. Straight off the splitter into the tote, doesn't get unloaded until it's burning time. Currently I unload the totes by hand into a rack in my screen porch (french doors to it just 6' from the woodstove), but I think I might modify my screen porch to have a giant swinging door opening, and then I can just set the IBC tote directly into the porch and unload/burn directly.

As for seasoning, that was a large part of my motivation to get a metal carport. I used to keep these totes outside, under tarps (I didn't have the plastic liners like Don) - but I would often get mold on my split wood, not fun. This setup is high and dry, and I am finally getting more than one winter ahead on ym production after living here for 7 years with woodstove heating.

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In our first years here, I would go after the standing dead ash trees, because while often wet when cut down, they would dry very quickly. I felt ok about burning them in the woodstove after just 3-4 months drying (cut and split). Our green black walnut and black cherry also dry pretty quickly once split, but I'm aiming for 15+ months of curing nowadays on everything I burn. I bought a moisture meter and promptly lost it, doh.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #77  
   / Seasoning Firewood #79  
Good thread. Some very nice woodsheds in here, but I can't help but think of the repetitive handling whenever I see one. That's the way my dad operated when I was a kid also, we'd take the lawn tractor and 10cu cart over to the woodshed, load it up and back over to the house to unload and stack. I thought it was all fun. Now I am 39, back is starting to ache, and never have any time. So I bought IBC totes. Straight off the splitter into the tote, doesn't get unloaded until it's burning time. Currently I unload the totes by hand into a rack in my screen porch (french doors to it just 6' from the woodstove), but I think I might modify my screen porch to have a giant swinging door opening, and then I can just set the IBC tote directly into the porch and unload/burn directly.

As for seasoning, that was a large part of my motivation to get a metal carport. I used to keep these totes outside, under tarps (I didn't have the plastic liners like Don) - but I would often get mold on my split wood, not fun. This setup is high and dry, and I am finally getting more than one winter ahead on ym production after living here for 7 years with woodstove heating.

pEEMXoR.jpg


In our first years here, I would go after the standing dead ash trees, because while often wet when cut down, they would dry very quickly. I felt ok about burning them in the woodstove after just 3-4 months drying (cut and split). Our green black walnut and black cherry also dry pretty quickly once split, but I'm aiming for 15+ months of curing nowadays on everything I burn. I bought a moisture meter and promptly lost it, doh.
I agree on the IBC totes. I now have 30 totes and plastic lids which equates to almost 3 years of wood supply for my use. I also stack the split wood directly into the totes from the splitter and also built a deck off my back door that will hold 4 totes at a time. I have since bought 2 rubber tired - heavy duty 4 wheel wagons from Northern Tool which will each hold appx. 1/4 cord with the extended plywood sides I have attached to them. I then fill the wagons from the totes on the back deck and wheel them onto my back porch. The wood stove is appx. 20 ft. from the wagons on my back porch. My back is already feeling 20 years younger - just telling this story. The biggest impediment to this whole story is just having a tractor with a loader strong enough to lift IBC totes filled with hardwood to a height of 4 ft. to get them ont the deck.
 
   / Seasoning Firewood #80  
I agree on the IBC totes. I now have 30 totes and plastic lids which equates to almost 3 years of wood supply for my use. I also stack the split wood directly into the totes from the splitter and also built a deck off my back door that will hold 4 totes at a time. I have since bought 2 rubber tired - heavy duty 4 wheel wagons from Northern Tool which will each hold appx. 1/4 cord with the extended plywood sides I have attached to them. I then fill the wagons from the totes on the back deck and wheel them onto my back porch. The wood stove is appx. 20 ft. from the wagons on my back porch. My back is already feeling 20 years younger - just telling this story. The biggest impediment to this whole story is just having a tractor with a loader strong enough to lift IBC totes filled with hardwood to a height of 4 ft. to get them onto the deck.
 

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