Solar Farm #2, dangers involved.

[ddbackhoe]

No, hundreds of billions!

oh right, the valuation errors. Old bombs arent worth as much as new bombs

 

[ljgordon]

Has anyone read about the solar farm in California that is sucking so much water out of the aquifers the people are having to drill deeper to get water. I never knew they used water till that article. One mobile home park is in danger of losing water completely.

 

[RSKY]

Problem solved have them put in a nuclear plant instead of a solar farm I'm sure the neighbors would prefer this!

Actually they might have IF it was done correctly. I don't think it would be possible though for lack of river cooling water.

 

[MossRoad]

So is Sloth / Dejection

Like anything in life, anything to the extreme is probably not healthy for you.

I don't stripe my lawn, nor do I weedwhack every week like I should and my company truck and home office desk can look like a pig sty after a period of time because I'm the only one who uses them That said, if I need to drive a larger company truck, I always clean it out when I'm done because someone else will be using it.

Wrath, too.

When the rains cooperate, I like to stripe my lawn. Now that it's pretty much dead for the season, I just knock the weed heads off once a week or so. We do keep the flowers watered.

 

[RSKY]

A small nuke plant is about a gigawatt in size, that would take about 6,000 acres of solar, depending on density, or about 12 square miles.

How many square miles get contaminated in a nuclear disaster? For the Chernobyl disaster the exclusion zone is 1,600 square miles.

I am no nuclear expert but from what I have read (yeah, an internet nuclear expert) the Chernobyl plant was of a design that would not have been built in the U.S., was run in a haphazard way, and was manned by half trained people. Some of the modern designs would be much safer, more efficient, and with multiple backup systems they would be disaster proof.

 

[MossRoad]

Has anyone read about the solar farm in California that is sucking so much water out of the aquifers the people are having to drill deeper to get water. I never knew they used water till that article. One mobile home park is in danger of losing water completely.

That depends on the type of solar.

If it's photovoltaic panels, I doubt it.

If it's a parabolic concentrator, then it's entirely possible.

It would be nice to have a link to the article, if possible.

 

[turbo36]

Has anyone read about the solar farm in California that is sucking so much water out of the aquifers the people are having to drill deeper to get water. I never knew they used water till that article. One mobile home park is in danger of losing water completely.

Do you have a link to this article?

 

[Torvy]

Do you have a link to this article?

Maybe this story?

Solar Is Booming in the California Desert, if Water Issues Don’t Get in the Way - Inside Climate News

DESERT CENTER, Calif.—Solar farms stretch out mile after mile along Interstate 10 around Palm Springs, creating one of the densest areas of solar development in North America in the heart of California’s Colorado Desert. But the area’s success in meeting the state and the nation’s renewable...

insideclimatenews.org

 

[RSKY]

That's great that people have owned land and houses for so long.

However, if it's theirs and they own it, they should have the right to do with it as they wish.

True, as long as it doesn't damage their neighbors.

Georgia couple awarded $135.5M for damages from polluted land, water

A Georgia couple has been awarded $135.5M for damages from polluted land and water. The lawsuit says Silicon Ranch Corp. developed over 160 solar panel facilities across the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Hay Dude]

Maybe this story?

Solar Is Booming in the California Desert, if Water Issues Don’t Get in the Way - Inside Climate News

DESERT CENTER, Calif.—Solar farms stretch out mile after mile along Interstate 10 around Palm Springs, creating one of the densest areas of solar development in North America in the heart of California’s Colorado Desert. But the area’s success in meeting the state and the nation’s renewable...

insideclimatenews.org

Looks like BLM needs to get its’ act together or people wont have water to drink or farms to irrigate.

 

[RSKY]

The main problem with solar and wind is that it is not reliable. Power companies must still have conventional coal or gas power plants up and idling in case the wind dies or clouds suddenly cover the sun.

To get back on topic, the families receiving the money for the solar farm are either moving away, or are making sure the panels are at least a quarter mile from their homes. Flat, suitable land around their homes will have no panels or battery storage units.

The families around the solar farm just want the Kentucky KRS 278.104 enforced and the panels at least 1000' from property lines. Not the 300' FROM RESIDENCES the company is proposing. Also the battery storage units must be 2000' from homes.

 

[Hay Dude]

True, as long as it doesn't damage their neighbors.

Georgia couple awarded $135.5M for damages from polluted land, water

A Georgia couple has been awarded $135.5M for damages from polluted land and water. The lawsuit says Silicon Ranch Corp. developed over 160 solar panel facilities across the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

WOW! Can you imagine the environmental damage from the mass clearing of 1000 acres of woodland and prime farmland? Wonder how many species of animals and their habitats were destroyed?
These climate crisis folks are on a religious crusade and it don’t matter how much land gets ruined, trees cut down or whales and dolphins die!!

Funny how they environmentalists used to cry like stuck pigs when the amazon rain forests were cut down or the coral reefs in the oceans were threatened or when whalers killed whales, but are eerily silent when all those species are destroyed for windmills and solar panels, huh?

 

[MossRoad]

If you don't comply with the law, you get sued.

North Carolina jury awards neighbors $473.5 million in Smithfield hog waste suit

On August 3, a jury awarded the plaintiffs $473.5 million—the largest of three matching verdicts that seem to indicate the momentum is in favor of the plaintiffs as the remaining trials advance through the courts. Though compensation will be limited by the state's cap on damages.

thecounter.org

 

[Hay Dude]

The main problem with solar and wind is that it is not reliable. Power companies must still have conventional coal or gas power plants up and idling in case the wind dies or clouds suddenly cover the sun.

To get back on topic, the families receiving the money for the solar farm are either moving away, or are making sure the panels are at least a quarter mile from their homes. Flat, suitable land around their homes will have no panels or battery storage units.

The families around the solar farm just want the Kentucky KRS 278.104 enforced and the panels at least 1000' from property lines. Not the 300' FROM RESIDENCES the company is proposing. Also the battery storage units must be 2000' from homes.

Only 300’ from a residence?
God help those poor souls.

Their homes will be devalued 50% and their dreams of being able to use the equity in their homes to improve their lives ruined forever.

I say build new nuke plants or clean NG plants on the sites of former coal plants. At least those sites have few people living near them and fewer lives ruined and we get more American jobs and give less money to the hostile CCP regime trying to destroy us.

 

[Sigarms]

That’s true!

I remember back in the 80’s losing a wheel & tire (no spare) out in the middle of nowhere in PA and hoofing it to the nearest house (no cellphones back then). Walked up on a small ranch house with chickens and junk like the homes being trashed in this thread. The man living there looked to be in his final months of life, unable to get out of his chair. We knocked on the door and he welcomed me in to use the phone. We sat with him a while until help arrived. He was a farmer and a veteran. He had lots of pride for what he did, just no money.

Stayed with me forever. Woke me up to the millions of poor people living lives of suffering, pain and financial hardship all over this country. I believe they were also referred to as “bitter clingers” a decade or so ago.

Great story.

Can I also assume the man was white?

What about black women living in the city with kids they can't afford?

Do you understand how many domesticated pets are killed in the US because their owner didn't spend the time or money to have those pets "fixed"?

Do you understand how many unwanted children there are in foster care because their parents can't either afford them or have a VERY unhealthy living environment because their parents can't care for them properly?

I was "woke" up a long time about our society in general.

My father was not only a veteran, but spent a career in the military. On his headstone he was involved with two wars (Korea and Vietnam, also he only worked in Thailand and Laos, which I found interesting from veterans affairs). Father also came from a family that didn't have a pot to piss in when he grew up, but he made a life for himself after he spent 20 plus years in the military.

I remember helping a family for their pets. Man who we helped spent 20 years in the military and retired as a Master Sargent. He didn't have a pot to piss in even after 20 years in the military. We still helped him and his family, but it dawned on my that this guy and my father was no different other than what they did AFTER they got out of the military.

I'm a veteran. Does it help my argument with you because I served my county? For some reason, we put veterans as a "higher status" because they served. I'm of the opinion that EVERY citizen should serve.

What stayed with me after "growing up" is that life can suck. The question is what can you do to make changes? That said, what I decided to do was help locally through my church where I know my time and money helps directly.

 

[Sigarms]

True, as long as it doesn't damage their neighbors.

Georgia couple awarded $135.5M for damages from polluted land, water

A Georgia couple has been awarded $135.5M for damages from polluted land and water. The lawsuit says Silicon Ranch Corp. developed over 160 solar panel facilities across the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

I honestly don't know how your "story" will play out with this solar farm, but I do mean this in the sincerest form... I hope you win.

I say that everyone has the right to do what they want to do on their own property, but I have not been in the position of your family members in their own position dealing with your neighbors.

My first thought is a solar panel has the right to be built on the edge of any property owner, but 1,000' away from any dwelling also makes sense. If you have enough property to lease for solar panels, 300' from your property line shouldn't really make a difference as that is only 100 yards.

In my own little world, I didn't have to make this a fight of my own. You're a pretty good man in my book for taking this up for your family,

 

[5030]

I have to keep on correcting posters on here. THEY ARE NOT SOLAR FARMS BUT RATHER INDUSTRIAL INSTALATIONS.

One thig that seems to cloud the overall view of them and that is, the compensation is real but so is the remediation and every solar company our township investigated, the remediation was 100% the responsibility of the land owner and remediation isn't cheap either. They don't last forever (solar installations) and in the end, the landowner bears the responsibility 100%

 

[5030]

The main problem with solar and wind is that it is not reliable. Power companies must still have conventional coal or gas power plants up and idling in case the wind dies or clouds suddenly cover the sun.

Exactly and while you can bring a natural gas generation plant online quickly (Peakers Unit) you cannot do that with a coal fired plant. Solar and wind will never be reliable. If the sun don't shine or the wind don't blow, they become ugly useless rocks destroying pristine views. People move to rural areas for the peace and tranquility, not to look at a solar or wind installation and people look at the revenue and not at the end game and there will always be that end game.

 

[Chewwy]

[QUOTE="5030, post: 6581608, member: 5479"
. . . One thig that seems to cloud the overall view of them and that is, the compensation is real but so is the remediation and every solar company our township investigated, the remediation was 100% the responsibility of the land owner and remediation isn't cheap either. They don't last forever (solar installations) and in the end, the landowner bears the responsibility 100%[/QUOTE]

What is possible and maybe even likely is that remedition exceeds the value of the property or even the net worth of the owners. Then remediation will be up to the taxpayers.

 

[Sigarms]

One thig that seems to cloud the overall view of them and that is, the compensation is real but so is the remediation and every solar company our township investigated, the remediation was 100% the responsibility of the land owner and remediation isn't cheap either. They don't last forever (solar installations) and in the end, the landowner bears the responsibility 100%

Dumb question, but shouldn't the homeowner know what they're signing also know what they are responsible for cost wise after signing a contract?