House Build 2023

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Concrete finishers got here early early. Pumper truck showed up just before daybreak. Then we all waited almost 2 hours for the first load of concrete... There was a highway bridge project that the trucks were working on. I guess highways are more important than houses, go figure?

71 yards for the slab. It took about 6 hours from the first load until the finishers left.

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I was there for the pour. It was pretty wet to my eye but they did a good job pulling the wire up. There are a couple of decent cracks, but you can't throw a cat through them so i think it's going to be fine.
 
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I was there for the pour. It was pretty wet to my eye but they did a good job pulling the wire up. There are a couple of decent cracks, but you can't throw a cat through them so i think it's going to be fine.

Also the cracks are only from inside corners so far, and only a few.
 
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Hopefully I can get a few opinions here.

2 questions:

Shingles:
Going to go with GAF Timberline HDZ in either Charcoal or Pewter Gray. They are both very dark, the Pewter Grey has a bit of a silverish grit. Is there any real difference in cooling costs with both being pretty dark? Everyone says the lighter has to be better, but no one I've talked to really has any hard data. Wife much prefers the charcoal. Attic insulation should be R38, but there is a small-medium sized area in the great room vault that is kind of captured with little to no airflow. 2X12 rafters in those areas with roof on one side and ceiling on the other.

HVAC:
More important in my mind. I have 2 quotes from top tier installers. Both come in at almost exactly the same price, both have 2 Heat pumps and a mini split. Just under $22k Main floor is around 2,600 sqft with 21' vault in the 30X30+ great room, and about a 15' vault in the master. Lots of volume to cool.

1) Goodman, total of 5.5 tons 14.2 SEER plus 12k BTU 17 SEER Daikin mini split - can upgrade to 15.2 SEER for about $2k
2) Trane, Total of 4 tons 14 SEER plus 12k BTU mini split - can upgrade to 15 SEER for $7K

I'm leaning toward the Goodman since it's a lot more cooling tonnage for the same price. Is that a bad call or would you make the same one?

I need to make these decisions as soon as possible. Plumbing top out is tomorrow so basically both trades are waiting on me. I love spending money...
 
   / House Build 2023 #106  
There is one concrete guy I follow on YouTube. He does amazing concrete. He explains and shows all the time how they use chairs, insert chairs as they go, and / or pull up the rebar. From watching his video, once you pull up the wire or rebar in concrete , it is not going back down. He shows them pull the rebar, stand on it, and you see it not going back down.
Put down some wire and rebar, start spreading gravel on it, pulling it as you go. I guarantee you will not push it back down once you pull it up.
The only way it stays on the bottom is if no effort is made to pull it up.
 
   / House Build 2023 #107  
I think you are on the right track with the Goodman 5.5 tons.

I heat and cool 2600 sq ft two story with a 4 ton Trane, it was professionally installed 30 years ago and never a problem with the volume I have here.
With the high ceilings you are going to have I don't think the 4 Ton trane would keep up with the demand with higher outside temps.
Edit: The R value in our attic is R44.

Shingle? Just reroofed my house at the end of June. Went with a shade lighter shingle and it did not make any difference in our energy consumption during the hot weather. Used the shingles in the link below.

The charcoal vs the pewter gray is about the same difference as we went with on our new roof.
Nice looking shingles you are going to use.
 
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   / House Build 2023 #109  
I'm not an HVAC Guy, so most of my experience with them is fixing the house after the AC system fails, or leaks from not having any bleach poured through the drain lines. There is a big Trane factory here in town and from what I've been told by people that work there, I wouldn't own one.
Sigarms is the HVAC expert on here. Hopefully he will see this and comment soon.

I've never seen any evidence that the color of the shingle affect the temperatures inside the attic. One thing that people sometimes get confused is that the heat in the attic is needed to create air flow through the attic. Air rises when it's hot, and that hot air in the attic pulls cooler air from the soffit vents, into the attic, and then out through the roof vents. In my opinion, a ridge vent gives you the most air flow. More air flowing through your attic, they dryer it will be. Air flow is how condensation is removed from an attic. A dry attic will last forever.

Where I live, R40 is the minimum R Value for Code. I personally have R60 in my home. Simple rule of thumb with blown in insulation is R30 is about a foot thick, R60 is two feet thick. After R60, you are not gaining anything more. Here, our main battle is against the heat, and the higher R value that you have in your attic, the less you pay to cool your house in the summer.

For your area that is limited to the thickness of the 2x12's, which are 11 1/4 inch tall, the very best you could hope for is R30 if you use fiberglass batts. That's OK, but it's not great either. If you can, that would be an ideal place to go with closed cell foam. NEVER use open cell foam on a roof, it retains moisture and speeds up the decay of the roof.
 
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