Can we clean it up?

[Rockbadchild]

Without getting into pros and cons, I find that argument difficult to understand. It seems to me that there’s never been such stark differences to choose from.

yes I agree and I get that perspective … it’s the idea that the arrival destination is the same but there is two different road to get there so we think we choose the destination …or the idea that the guys we see up front is just a muppets regardless of who is in power… I am not saying i totally agree with that premise and everything decisions is the case but to think it is never the case would be foolish.

 

[Oaktree]

Without getting into pros and cons, I find that argument difficult to understand. It seems to me that there’s never been such stark differences to choose from.

A bit too stark for my taste. A choice between extreme right and extreme left is not much better than no choice at all. Are there no moderates anymore?

 

[jyoutz]

A bit too stark for my taste. A choice between extreme right and extreme left is not much better than no choice at all. Are there no moderates anymore?

Some, but most are retiring from politics.

 

[Hay Dude]

The sad thing about politics is I've been voting for almost 30 years and never had a politician I was actually proud to vote.

Somehow we keep getting d and r alternating in office then expect something good to happen. We dumb.

Well, that might be true for you, but there’s been a few I’m proud I DID vote for.

 

[5030]

Some, but most are retiring from politics.

... and most are retiring filthy rich on the backs of the taxpayers I might add.

 

[Hay Dude]

A bit too stark for my taste. A choice between extreme right and extreme left is not much better than no choice at all. Are there no moderates anymore?

IMO, moderates Stand for nothing.

The reason I believe this is because with most choices in life there is right and wrong. Sure, there are some issues where there’s a gray area, but the choice (in modern context) between strictly adhering to the Constitution is right, not adhering to it is wrong.

Moderates keep giving our rights and protections away to the extreme left.

 

[Rockbadchild]

IMO, moderates Stand for nothing.

The reason I believe this is because with most choices in life there is right and wrong. Sure, there are some issues where there’s a gray area, but the choice (in modern context) between strictly adhering to the Constitution is right, not adhering to it is wrong.

Moderates keep giving our rights and protections away to the extreme left.

like ,,,, I totally agree with free speech but this is hate speech because I don't agree with it, so it must be band... yeah that makes sense what can go wrong ...

 

[Hay Dude]

like ,,,, I totally agree with free speech but this is hate speech because I don't agree with it, so it must be band... yeah that makes sense what can go wrong ...

Right.
Hate speech = I hate what you are saying.

 

[5030]

I will say this is the ONLY forum I frequent where the moderation at times is overbearing, but then I just look at the forum owner and that explains a multitude of things.

 

[Fixastuff]

Well, that might be true for you, but there’s been a few I’m proud I DID vote for.

Its OK some people have lower standards than others.