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I never understood buying firewood, the only real reason I deal with a wood stove is due to the "free" fuel I can get off my property.
IMHO wood heat can't be beat, but my present property doesn't have a lot of easily accessible hardwood. Most of what's easy to get at is either poplar or some sort of evergreen. Plus, I'm not getting any younger, and dropping trees gets less appealing every year. Buying log length is a good compromise on price...~40% of what cut & split goes for and a load lasts almost 3 years. When I was younger it would be all "free" wood...either from my property or scavenged.

Still cheaper than heating with oil, and a much more pleasant heat.
You should be around here during tourist season when a "bundle" (arm load) goes for $5.
Yeah, no kidding. Roadside stands with green pine for $5/bundle are everywhere. Given that many states (including mine and our neighboring states) prohibit bringing firewood in from out of state what choice to people at campgrounds have?
 
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Me too but I can't find enough campers to sell to.....
 
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Ultimately a cord of hardwood should contain 85 cubic feet of solid wood whereas that number of a cord of softwood is 96. This is all based on measurements taken years ago, when pulpwood was sold by the cord in 4 foot sticks.

Curious where you come up with that number, 85 cubic feet for a cord of wood as far as I can ever tell it was 8‘ x 4‘ x 4‘ which is 128 ft.³
It's because a good bit of that 128 cu ft is actually air. the 85 cu ft is an estimate of the amount of actual wood in the stack.

I've never heard of the different number for softwood. I assume that was because softwood tends to be straighter so packs better?
 
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Curious where you come up with that number, 85 cubic feet for a cord of wood as far as I can ever tell it was 8‘ x 4‘ x 4‘ which is 128 ft.³
That is solid wood without the air. . Over the years a lot of people have made their livings cutting, selling, buying and processing wood, for a long time it was what kept this state alive. Firewood is just a biproduct.
You know what a log scale is I'm sure... they were created after sawing buko logs, keeping track of small end diameter and length, then creating a table.* Cord wood volume was established the same way; take a 4×4×8 foot pile, measure both ends of every stick. Do that to multiple piles, and create a table. That's where the 85 and 96 cubic feet of solid wood comes from.

I've tried to explain it in the past, but it's like kicking a hornets nest.

*Log scales favor the sawmill
Most are based on a 1/4 inch saw kerf. However, board dimensions are based on whole inch; before that same kerf. Then they plane it, taking the board down even more. Then they sell the sawdust and shavings, which they just charged you for, yet didn't pay the logger. Plus very few mills have a 1/4 inch saw kerf these days, most are running BSMs with a more narrow kerf.
 
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Marketplace score. Sugar maple. Not done picking it all up yet either, probably three more 5X10 trailer loads to go. Sorry, put my tractor away before I took the photos.
 

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   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #22,447  
Marketplace score. Sugar maple. Not done picking it all up yet either, probably three more 5X10 trailer loads to go. Sorry, put my tractor away before I took the photos.
Nice, and I have that same cup!
 
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Nice, and I have that same cup!
Awesome cups! I've never been to a Buc-ees before but I have family in Texas so I had them send up some schwag.
 
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Awesome cups! I've never been to a Buc-ees before but I have family in Texas so I had them send up some schwag.
I've been to a Buc-ees in at least three states. They have one about an hour from me now in South Carolina!
 
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I cut some more logs into firewood length today. I own a Stihl MS261 and MS250. Yesterday I used the 261 and didn’t think it was cutting that great. I used the 250 this morning and immediately knew the 261 wasn’t sharp. The 250 was throwing nice big chips. I ran a tank through the 250 and went and sharpened the 261 and it was much better.

How much pressure do you use when sharpening? I sharpen after every tank of fuel and often don’t use a lot of pressure on the file if the chain isn’t that dull. I may need to use a little more sometimes.
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I cut some more logs into firewood length today. I own a Stihl MS261 and MS250. Yesterday I used the 261 and didn’t think it was cutting that great. I used the 250 this morning and immediately knew the 261 wasn’t sharp. The 250 was throwing nice big chips. I ran a tank through the 250 and went and sharpened the 261 and it was much better.

How much pressure do you use when sharpening? I sharpen after every tank of fuel and often don’t use a lot of pressure on the file if the chain isn’t that dull. I may need to use a little more sometimes.
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If you have to use much pressure, it's probably time to replace your file. (One of the quickest ways to dull a file is back-dragging it. Make sure you lift it off the tooth when returning the file for the next stroke.)

I'm not really sure how to describe the pressure I use. Much more like brushing my teeth than like scrubbing out pot with cooked-on crud.
 
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I cut some more logs into firewood length today. I own a Stihl MS261 and MS250. Yesterday I used the 261 and didn’t think it was cutting that great. I used the 250 this morning and immediately knew the 261 wasn’t sharp. The 250 was throwing nice big chips. I ran a tank through the 250 and went and sharpened the 261 and it was much better.

How much pressure do you use when sharpening? I sharpen after every tank of fuel and often don’t use a lot of pressure on the file if the chain isn’t that dull. I may need to use a little more sometimes.
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Interesting question so I did an experiment. I put a file to a saw like I normally do and was cognizant of the amount of force I used. Then I took various weights of stuff and put them on a small scale. I used weight from 1 to 5 lb. So going back and forth from saw to weights so I'd get an idea of muscle memory, I came up with the file pressure able to move a 2 lb weight about a half inch on my work bench.
This should tell you nothing but it did tell me how much force I use to file.

What John Mc said is critical about sharpness and back dragging.
I find a file rather innocuous when used a dozen times and when i was logging, I'd change them out using them 6 to 8 times.
I'd buy 3 dozen at a time and they weren't junk files. I didn't have time to mess around and if I took more than 3 minutes to touch up a 20" chain, the file got tossed. If the chain got nicked, off it came.
Now they use mechanical monsters to clear land so there's that. I guess the logger here in the N.E. became like taking a bus to Florida instead of a plane.
No money in producing firewood. Now they use trees here to produce wood pellets.
No one touches a thing except controls on mechanical monsters.
 
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I feel I’m generally using the right amount of pressure. One thing I knew but haven’t been doing is back dragging the file across the tooth. I don’t use any pressure but I need to take the file out of the tooth and put it back in.
 
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I feel I’m generally using the right amount of pressure. One thing I knew but haven’t been doing is back dragging the file across the tooth. I don’t use any pressure but I need to take the file out of the tooth and put it back in.
More importantly, that looks like a Challenger in the background pic but I don't recall a grill design with vertical slats.
Road Runner perhaps but looks too short to be one?
 
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More importantly, that looks like a Challenger in the background pic but I don't recall a grill design with vertical slats.
Road Runner perhaps but looks too short to be one?


There is actually a picture of a Challenger in the background but mostly obscured, it has fire coming out of the carb on a backfire. The picture you probably see is a 72 Satellite Sebring.
 

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