Buying Advice Are TYM tractors junk?

[Slowpoke Slim]

FWIW, I am now going through the same experience on my T494. 13 hours and it is sitting in the barn unusable...TYM won't even return my dealers calls about it. apparently 1 out of 100 are lemons and spacegun and I are the "lucky" ones. All that to say, if you roll the dice on 1 of these make sure you buy from a dealer that is very close so you have someone to fix the big problems that happen when they break.

Seems like with this class of tractor you either get a good one or a bad one. We had a 2007 century/branson we should have never traded on this 494. 18 years without a single issue. stupid, stupid stupid of us to trade it in on a new one.

There is a whole ton of facts that "spacegun" is withholding. Everytime you ask him a specific question on what he was doing and has done with his tractor, he goes silent.

He's been moving round bales... Obvious question asked: "What, if any rear ballast weight did you have on your 3 pt?" "Are your rear tires filled with ballast?"

Answer: Crickets chirping. He goes dark. Avoids answering questions like this, but never fails to come back and say how sorry he is that he bought it.

It's very easy to break a tractor if you're a new tractor owner. It does happen. Regardless of paint color. But blaming the equipment for the operator error is not going to get him (or anyone) anywhere.

 

[Williy]

It seems like when someone abuses his equipment then
unit don't work operator fault I should have never purchased
it its nothing but junk sounds fimiliar???

willy

 

[Texasmark]

There are plenty of other brands, Branson, Massey, Kioti, LS, New Holland, in addition to TYM. They all have pros and cons, all have different pricing. Do your homework, see what else is out there. I bought my LS for many thousands less than Kubota and JD! I think I got more tractor with more options for a lot less!

I agree on getting what works for a lot less. My off brand tractors are extremely well built and designed. Very reliable work horses. I have older Fords and Case-IH that are work horses too. One thing I like about newly designed FELs (on seemingly all newer tractors these days) is that they don't have a lot of loader framework blocking access to the engine compartment and put less weight on the front axle. Course with 4wd pretty much being standard, front tires and axles are pretty robust.

 

[flyinghigh]

Just and update, we are now engaging legal council to get try and get a full refund on our 494 POS that has been in the shop for months. If successful the plan is to move to LS.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I really hope this works out for you, but more for your father.

 

[flyinghigh]

Amen to that...thank you!

 

[lilranch2001]

Not quite. Kubota is what it is today because they build great engines, machines, and take care of their customers/dealers.

There have been many tractor brands that failed. It wasn稚 because they didnt start in mom/pop places. It is because they sucked at one of the above.

I’m not so sure that they take care of their dealers so well…..

Locally we had a legacy dealer that was Kubota as long as I can remember and when the dealer didn’t feel like investing a $billion into the dealership to upgrade, Kubota decided to say goodbye to him…..

 

[sd455dan]

I agree on getting what works for a lot less. My off brand tractors are extremely well built and designed. Very reliable work horses. I have older Fords and Case-IH that are work horses too. One thing I like about newly designed FELs (on seemingly all newer tractors these days) is that they don't have a lot of loader framework blocking access to the engine compartment and put less weight on the front axle. Course with 4wd pretty much being standard, front tires and axles are pretty robust.

It may help with access and is Definitely very nice to have for servicing ... -but all that extra bracing triangulates , reinforces and helps carry those forces to the rear axle, instead of through the bellhousing and even engine especially if the FEL bucket contacts something unmovable.

Also disagree on the front axle robustness. Every newer CUT seems to have shrunken the center pumpkin and therefor ring gear size down to the absolute bare minimum. Many companies switched from double sheer to single sheer outer hubs as well unless above 50 HP.

Give me an old Ford like a 4630 MFWD or even my chinese Rhino's front axle and the extra bracing over what is being offered in the 40-60HP CUTs these days.


ps.
I Hope TYM either Gets on the stick and fixes the Tractor
(CORRECTLY), or they refund the money so that Flyinghigh's dad can get some Enjoyable use out of a New Comfortable cabbed tractor.

 

[Jchonline]

I’m not so sure that they take care of their dealers so well…..

Locally we had a legacy dealer that was Kubota as long as I can remember and when the dealer didn’t feel like investing a $billion into the dealership to upgrade, Kubota decided to say goodbye to him…..

A billion? This sounds like hogwash to me. Not saying some dealers wont get dropped along the way but your math is a bit off.

 

[lilranch2001]

A billion? This sounds like hogwash to me. Not saying some dealers wont get dropped along the way but your math is a bit off.

Ok. You got me for a little bit of exaggeration.
Excuse the F out of me…. I guess you don’t understand that I MAY have a little bit of an attitude for a huge corporation that thinks it’s God‘s gift to man and that doesn’t respect the little guy that helped make it the company it is now!

 

[lilranch2001]

For a small dealer that’s been a dealer for 40 years and is almost 70 years old a 3-4 hundred thousand dollar investment into façade and parking and display area Upgrades is almost seeming to be a $billion.

 

[lilranch2001]

I honestly didn’t think anybody was stupid enough to take me seriously for $1 billion but I guess there’s one in every crowd!

 

[Jchonline]

Ok. You got me for a little bit of exaggeration.
Excuse the F out of me…. I guess you don’t understand that I MAY have a little bit of an attitude for a huge corporation that thinks it’s God‘s gift to man and that doesn’t respect the little guy that helped make it the company it is now!

My local Kubota dealers would disagree with your assessment. I wonder how Bobcat corp treats their dealers? I have seen some pretty impressive looking Bobcat dealerships. Corporate mandate or just the little guy spending their cash?

 

[lilranch2001]

My local Kubota dealers would disagree with your assessment. I wonder how Bobcat corp treats their dealers? I have seen some pretty impressive looking Bobcat dealerships. Corporate mandate or just the little guy spending their cash?

Well, I’m glad YOUR dealer would disagree. I don’t really know what that has to do with my statement though.

But in my humble opinion, your response to me initially was because you got butt hurt, because I dared to insult your favorite manufacturer in my post And you didn’t have enough sense of what was being said to comprehend that $1 billion was an exaggeration on purpose.

 

[jyoutz]

For a small dealer that’s been a dealer for 40 years and is almost 70 years old a 3-4 hundred thousand dollar investment into façade and parking and display area Upgrades is almost seeming to be a $billion.

Companies have standards for the sale of their products. Some companies want their customers to have the full service experience and don’t want to support dealerships that are back of the feed store operations. It’s entirely within the company’s prerogative to set standards for dealerships.

 

[lilranch2001]

Companies have standards for the sale of their products. Some companies want their customers to have the full service experience and don’t want to support dealerships that are back of the feed store operations. It’s entirely within the company’s prerogative to set standards for dealerships.

I don’t disagree, except for the fact that they were more than willing for 40 years to do business with the gentleman in the facility he was in and in my never to be humble opinion after taking advantage of him for many years, they just were asking a little bit more than somebody that was not in a financial position to invest massive sums of money into a business that was Otherwise thriving, so it did not set well with myself, so excuse the f out of me.

Fortunately, for him, he took over Majandra as soon as Kubota left, and he did even better with Mahindra than he ever did with Kibota.

Mahindra struggled in this area with three or four different dealers over the years and never could make it and now 12 years later, Mahindra is still going strong in his facility

 

[Jchonline]

As if Mahindra corporate would not push anything down on their dealers....I bet that dealership agreement has quite a bit of interesting verbiage written into it!. Point being all of these corporations are the same to some degree.

Kubota is still selling tractors and commands a major portion of the US marketshare...they get to dictate just like JD does. Brands with smaller market penetration are more likely to compromise with a given dealer. It sounds like your dealer did exactly what they should have...looked out for their dealership. You cannot fault them for that. There could also be more to the story...maybe other issues between corporate and that dealer.

As consumers we get the joy of taking all of this into consideration and trying to make the best decision for ourselves. Kubota was an great decision for me, I hope Bobcat was for you.

 

[lilranch2001]

As if Mahindra corporate would not push anything down on their dealers....I bet that dealership agreement has quite a bit of interesting verbiage written into it!. Point being all of these corporations are the same to some degree.

Kubota is still selling tractors and commands a major portion of the US marketshare...they get to dictate just like JD does. Brands with smaller market penetration are more likely to compromise with a given dealer. It sounds like your dealer did exactly what they should have...looked out for their dealership. You cannot fault them for that. There could also be more to the story...maybe other issues between corporate and that dealer.

As consumers we get the joy of taking all of this into consideration and trying to make the best decision for ourselves. Kubota was a great decision for me, I hope Bobcat was for you.

Funny you mention that. My Tractor purchase was immediately prior to him losing the Kubota (I do find it hilarious that every time I say Kubota as in speak to type on tractorbynet it spells it Kabota not Kubota)line and I had been looking at a B and thought how chincy the B Line was and how every control on it vibrated like it was a guitar string so I told him that and he acted half offended by it, and I quite honestly went across the city to the bobcat dealer, and that’s when I bought my bobcat

My Bobcat been back to the dealership one time last summer when I lost the transmission and I thought the contractor that had been borrowing it on my retaining wall project burnt the transmission out and it ended up being a pin fell out of the transmission….. one trip back to the dealership it cost me $130 to haul it back-and-forth and for them to fix That pen because I was too lazy to get underneath it to look.

The previous year I did have to have a mechanic come out and troubleshoot the starting circuit because I’m not smart enough to follow all the relays and he had to replace one relay, so yes, I’ve had very good luck with my bobcat and 13 years almost 14 years

 

[lilranch2001]

As if Mahindra corporate would not push anything down on their dealers....I bet that dealership agreement has quite a bit of interesting verbiage written into it!. Point being all of these corporations are the same to some degree.

Kubota is still selling tractors and commands a major portion of the US marketshare...they get to dictate just like JD does. Brands with smaller market penetration are more likely to compromise with a given dealer. It sounds like your dealer did exactly what they should have...looked out for their dealership. You cannot fault them for that. There could also be more to the story...maybe other issues between corporate and that dealer.

As consumers we get the joy of taking all of this into consideration and trying to make the best decision for ourselves. Kubota was an great decision for me, I hope Bobcat was for you.

Anyways, that’s the rub that I didn’t get to in the last post……
With Mahindra he’s actually doing just as well as he would’ve with Kubota and he’s got a better floorplan than he had with Kubota where the dealer that picked up the local franchise was 25 miles outside of the big city so he put a second location in the big city alongside the freeway And from what I can tell, seems to be struggling to make it work

 

[tacticalturnip]

Deere and Kubota are more than allowed to bully their small dealers into selling out to massive conglomerates that operate as soulless monuments to the modern age.

I, in turn, am allowed to take my money elsewhere. So I did.

At least Kubota has been smart enough to stay away from the right-to-repair debate.