What happened to Massey Ferguson?

[can do]

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My 1840M ready for winter duty! I love my Massey. 0% financing, great dealership within an hour of my house. I put 100 hours on it in the first year at my new house, moving dirt, trees, brush hogging, plowing snow and of course the occasional moving pallets and heavy objects!

That is one Mighty-Fine M-F. A friend of mine bought the same model last year; When he was looking to buy a tractor. He did ask me about what I liked about my 2 M-F's. I just told him to make comparisons with other tractors makes, & you'll make the right decision; He was close to buying a LS only because it was close to his home, But the M-F had everything he was looking for, & he also liked the 0% financing. & like You, & Me he loves his M-F 1840M. I do recall saying to myself if I ever bought a tractor with a cab; The 1840M would be the one, But I can't part with my 59 M-F 50; That I bought 26 years ago used it's the 1st tractor I ever bought, & I bought the 1526 new in 2018 for other purposes; They both compliment each other.

 

[Calgaryglenn]

Greetings All!
Just a general topic question:
With all the tractor talk and newer brands, rebranding, emerging models and buyouts, where is Massey Ferguson in all this? I never see reviews, or comparisons including MF. Are they a "has been" brand now? Do they fail the current markets? Poor dealer support? Overpriced?

Just curious why I don't find any sizeable quantity of info about them.

If you go to the AGCO website you will find everything you need, They have not disappeared.

www.agcocorp.comAGCO: Fendt, Grain & Protein, Massey Ferguson, Precision ...​

 

[just_Dave]

Kubota, JD, Case have construction lines as well which I suspect helps with dealerships and brand recognition. so in areas that aren't farming focused these lines thrive well with construction and then when they need a sub 50hp tractor there is already the built in location for construction owners and for small farms. living on a farm we had MF and it was a great machine but in that farming area we had no kubota. now living in Seattle area kubota and jd thrive very well.

 

[Catenary Kid]

Greetings All!
Just a general topic question:
With all the tractor talk and newer brands, rebranding, emerging models and buyouts, where is Massey Ferguson in all this? I never see reviews, or comparisons including MF. Are they a "has been" brand now? Do they fail the current markets? Poor dealer support? Overpriced?

Just curious why I don't find any sizeable quantity of info about them.

It's true they don't do the advertising that many of the other b rands do, but they have always had a great reputation, especially amongst those who really work them, as opposed to hobby farmers. I just sold one I had for almost 40 years, and my dad had it for more than 10 years before me. It remains quite a beast, though it doesn't have a lot of the amenities the modern ones do. If you google them, you'll find all kinds of info on them.

 

[Up to the Axles]

Man, I am behind the times. I keep wondering what happened Massey Harris!

I loved the Ferguson 30 I ran a lifetime ago. Continental engine. Dealer with all the parts needed.

Forty years later, I used a Ford N, and was surprised how it all came back to me; the "go to neutral do I can release the clutch to get the hydraulic up and raise the blade" was fully instinctive.

 

[rvds]

To my mind MF no longer exists as a manufacturer who even owned Perkins at one time. Today it is just a brand name belonging to AGCO and they paste it on to whatever tractor they please. I have heard them say it is used on their premium line of tractors along with the bright red paint.

 

[can do]

To my mind MF no longer exists as a manufacturer who even owned Perkins at one time. Today it is just a brand name belonging to AGCO and they paste it on to whatever tractor they please. I have heard them say it is used on their premium line of tractors along with the bright red paint.

That might be true, But I own a 1959 M-F & a 2018 M-F, & the quality is still there; As well as the value. After all there are not many tractors that can say they are not a global product. & if you can't find a part for your 135; I'm sure you'll be looking toward AGCO for a solution in your quest. It's no longer a small world when it comes to mechanized machinery.

 

[rvds]

I am sure they have some good models but to me it is not worthy of brand loyalty when the same tractor is sold with different paint and decals.

 

[aesanders]

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I am sure they have some good models but to me it is not worthy of brand loyalty when the same tractor is sold with different paint and decals.

So who else sells the same Massey Tractors? Maybe some larger challenger models.
MF has had a long history selling Iseki made compacts. They are the only way to buy one in North America.

I like AGCO. They have bought many established brands that were in decline. Some they have folded like Allis Chalmers, Others they have sunk money into and made them much better. They have a full range of ag products. Very thorough in what they offer.

 

[Hay Dude]

They have sunk a few brands for sure, Challenger and AGCO are gone. They seem to have condensed them into the MF tractor brand. AGCO tractors are a modernized extension of Allis-Chalmers (although they share little other than paint color) and gave a farmer a chance to buy a Massey Ferguson style tractor with a Cummins 5.9L or 6.7L matched up to Fendt drivetrain. Sad to see that go. An amazing tractor lineup.
Challenger was a brand started by CAT to introduce them into the AG tractor market to go along with their long run of tracked AG tractors. AGCO bought that tractor line from CAT in the early oughts and kept them going until 2022.

I had a Challenger MT285B and it was a fantastic little tractor.

 

[rockinbbar]

I am sure they have some good models but to me it is not worthy of brand loyalty when the same tractor is sold with different paint and decals.

LOL.

Which tractor brand doesn't have crossovers into different paints and brand names?

The list must be very short indeed.

 

[gckshea]

I live in E. Tennessee, so I did a Dealer Locator search. The nearest dealer? Huntingburg, Indiana, 246 miles from my zip code. I rest my case.

 

[can do]

I live in E. Tennessee, so I did a Dealer Locator search. The nearest dealer? Huntingburg, Indiana, 246 miles from my zip code. I rest my case.

That's not really much of case; Just a little to far to go. I went out of my way to buy my 1st new M-F; Which was 113 miles to be exact. The closest dealers in this order were John Deer, Kubota, & a N/H M-F dealer. No regrets here. & recently we had a new M-F dealer open up 28 miles from my home ( Warrenton Equipment ) I've met one of the owners, & I decided to have some work done on my model 50 with them. I'll probably post a thread on it when I pick it back up on how it went.

 

[rvds]

That's not really much of case; Just a little to far to go. I went out of my way to buy my 1st new M-F; Which was 113 miles to be exact. The closest dealers in this order were John Deer, Kubota, & a N/H M-F dealer. No regrets here. & recently we had a new M-F dealer open up 28 miles from my home ( Warrenton Equipment ) I've met one of the owners, & I decided to have some work done on my model 50 with them. I'll probably post a thread on it when I pick it back up on how it went.

I wonder how long the tech will spend trying to find the port for his laptop on your MF50!

 

[aesanders]

The closest dealer to me is a Massey Ferguson dealer. About 15 miles away. Within a half hour I have a Kubota dealer and 2 John dealer dealers. Within an hour, I have another Massey dealer dealer along with just about everything else.

 

[can do]

I wonder how long the tech will spend trying to find the port for his laptop on your MF50!

Ha! Ha! Not long at all; Since he knows it doesn't have one. The head mechanic has 40 years experience with M-F & really knows his stuff, & that's who is working on my 50.I just hope he is training a few of the new techs. how work on the good ole stuff. The only modern item on the tractor is the electronic ignition that I installed. It took 18 months for the new techs. to be certified, & that's how long it took before they could open there doors. My newer 1526 just went out of warranty last Oct. ( 5 years ) & so far has been trouble free piece of equipment, & of course I do all my own pm's.

 

[rvds]

Ha! Ha! Not long at all; Since he knows it doesn't have one. The head mechanic has 40 years experience with M-F & really knows his stuff, & that's who is working on my 50.I just hope he is training a few of the new techs. how work on the good ole stuff. The only modern item on the tractor is the electronic ignition that I installed. It took 18 months for the new techs. to be certified, & that's how long it took before they could open there doors. My newer 1526 just went out of warranty last Oct. ( 5 years ) & so far has been trouble free piece of equipment, & of course I do all my own pm's.

My neighbours 1758 has endless problems with the DPF regen, it costs a few hundred every time they collect it. This fall they sent the dpf off for cleaning, hopefully he will have a trouble free year or even two!

 

[notractoryet]

My SOL has been doing shipping logistics for AGCO for last 5 yrs.

He is still well employed.

 

[jyoutz]

LOL.

Which tractor brand doesn't have crossovers into different paints and brand names?

The list must be very short indeed.

Kubota is the only one I’m aware of.

 

[masseyrider]

LOL.

Which tractor brand doesn't have crossovers into different paints and brand names?

The list must be very short indeed.

Talking with my local dealer a few years back he told me Massey sends them to conferences to the different plants and all the new stuff, tech, yada, yada. He had a picture from the one plant ( I can't remember where) with 4 different tractors coming down the same assembly line for 4 different makers.