Windows 10 defrag

[etpm]

Mac Linux? They all have their problems IMO. Are you by the Naval Air Station?

No, I'm at the other end of the island, less than a mile from the water as the proverbial crow flies.
Eric

 

[newbury]

original post indicates ssd

So about Thanksgiving I bought a refurbed Dell w/ a SSD drive.

It's my 2019 that had a "regular" (SATA?) 1TB HD, not SSD, that I defragged, sorry for the confusion.

 

[MTGreen]

So, after you throw Windows out of the window, what do you use instead?
Eric

Linux. The Mint Cinnamon is the variety closest to Windows and is almost seamless in the learning curve if you already know how to use Windows.
It's free, you can install alongside Windows and boot either OS at startup if you choose, the vast majority of software is free including an entire office suite that is compatible with Microsuck formats, choice of browsers, very fast, very secure, doesn't try to take over your life/identity and monopolize your finances and sell personal information to the highest bidder like Microsuck and Crapple, doesn't use your computer's resources and processing power as a bot to process information for outside computers like Microsuck, etc. etc.

If you are needing a computer for Internet browsing, office applications, paying bills, etc., Linux Mint Cinnamon is the way to go. If you are into high end CAD programs or video games designed for Windows, then there's the dual boot option for starting Windows when you need it.

 

[MikeFarm]

I have never had to defrag any of the disk formats that Linux uses, and I started using Linux in 2005. Some users with very unusual disk write patterns might benefit from a defrag when the disk is near full. But generally it is not needed. Defragmentation is required on Windows because of the way the NTFS is designed.

 

[TN8Man]

I don't either, but they're making that harder to do. Then again, I don't think it's possible to set up an Apple device without an account.

True but you can always create a anonymous account and even that is getting harder.

 

[TN8Man]

Linux. The Mint Cinnamon is the variety closest to Windows and is almost seamless in the learning curve if you already know how to use Windows.
It's free, you can install alongside Windows and boot either OS at startup if you choose, the vast majority of software is free including an entire office suite that is compatible with Microsuck formats, choice of browsers, very fast, very secure, doesn't try to take over your life/identity and monopolize your finances and sell personal information to the highest bidder like Microsuck and Crapple, doesn't use your computer's resources and processing power as a bot to process information for outside computers like Microsuck, etc. etc.

If you are needing a computer for Internet browsing, office applications, paying bills, etc., Linux Mint Cinnamon is the way to go. If you are into high end CAD programs or video games designed for Windows, then there's the dual boot option for starting Windows when you need it.

Remember when the FBI was aggressively trying to justify banning personal VPN?

You don't see that anymore.

The illusion of security.

 

[Oaktree]

Linux. The Mint Cinnamon is the variety closest to Windows and is almost seamless in the learning curve if you already know how to use Windows.
It's free, you can install alongside Windows and boot either OS at startup if you choose, the vast majority of software is free including an entire office suite that is compatible with Microsuck formats, choice of browsers, very fast, very secure, doesn't try to take over your life/identity and monopolize your finances and sell personal information to the highest bidder like Microsuck and Crapple, doesn't use your computer's resources and processing power as a bot to process information for outside computers like Microsuck, etc. etc.

If you are needing a computer for Internet browsing, office applications, paying bills, etc., Linux Mint Cinnamon is the way to go. If you are into high end CAD programs or video games designed for Windows, then there's the dual boot option for starting Windows when you need it.

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think.
I played around with linux mint and it reminded me of Windows 95. Maybe a little less clunky than other versions of Linux, but if you wanted to do anything but use software that was built in, there was a steep learning curve and way too much command line stuff for my liking. Installing new software was not in the least bit intuitive. Didn't think it was worth the effort.

Defragmentation is required on Windows because of the way the NTFS is designed.

Actually, NTFS is pretty good in that regard. FAT16/32, not so much. I don't think I've had to defrag a drive even once since I left Windows 98 behind. As always, YMMV.

 

[skipmarcy]

Doesn't work that way. You can only delay it for so long (about 35 days). Once you hit that delay limit, it's gonna download and install no matter what.

How to Delay Windows Updates and Tell Microsoft to Leave You Alone

Are you concerned that the latest and greatest updates to Microsoft's Windows 10 or Windows 11 might be a little buggy? Certain versions of the operating system allow you to pause the updates.

www.pcmag.com

I can't remember where I got the instructions but you CAN turn off auto updates in Win 10. This PC I'm currently using has been fine for 4 years now with no updates from MS at all. All I remember is it's in the Local Group Policy Editor, configure auto updates - disable.

Been surfing the web daily for 4 years now with no Defender updates etc. , I do run uBlock origin for ads etc. and this Dell refurb. Optiplex 7010 does just fine.

 

[TN8Man]

I can't remember where I got the instructions but you CAN turn off auto updates in Win 10. This PC I'm currently using has been fine for 4 years now with no updates from MS at all. All I remember is it's in the Local Group Policy Editor, configure auto updates - disable.

Been surfing the web daily for 4 years now with no Defender updates etc. , I do run uBlock origin for ads etc. and this Dell refurb. Optiplex 7010 does just fine.

How to turn off automatic updates in Windows 10​

 

[MossRoad]

How to turn off automatic updates in Windows 10​

Thanks!

 

[CliffordK]

How to turn off automatic updates in Windows 10​

2. When the Services window opens, scroll down to the Windows Update entry. Right-click this and choose Properties.
3. Select Disabled from the Startup type drop-down menu, then click Stop in the Service status section below. Click OK or Apply to disable automatic Windows updates.
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I do a version of that several times a day with Windows 11. It automatically changes from Disabled to Delayed and runs anyway

Problem is windows updates take 99.9% or more of my network bandwidth, and kils it almost constantly.

 

[5030]

I've been running an early 2019 Dell laptop (8GB RAM, 1TB HD) for my main computer since I got it in 2019. Worked well for a few years, then last year it seemed to get slower. General info on the web and from a couple of sys admins was "Don't try and defrag, it's not worth it".
So about Thanksgiving I bought a refurbed Dell w/ a SSD drive. But to get to my price point (< $250) I had to go to a 512 GB HD w/ 16GB RAM.
Sort of sat the 2019 aside except for pulling something off it now and then. But the 2019 would take forever to boot up proper, the HD was always at 100% usage for a long time. Yesterday I wanted to pull a rarely used file off it instead of from my backup. It took 4 hours or more for the disk activity to allow me to get in, search around and grab the file.
Since I have a complete backup I decided to waste the time and try a defrag.
The Windows 10 defrag took 4 hours to run. The computer works well now.
Boot up only took about a minute after log in before disk activity died down.
I'm glad I hadn't done that before I bought the refurb. A "live backup" is good to have.

I use CCleaner but the professional version, not the freeware and it's on my cell phone as well. I've used it for a lot of years now but..

Don't ever use it on a solid state hard drive as it can corrupt it and SSD's self defragment themselves. The laptop I'm posting on has a 5 terrabite SSD installed in it. I could never use all the memory available even if I tried. Last time I checked it, it was at less than 20% usage plus I have a WD external 2 TB SSD running on the side as well. At my age, slow is a relative term anyway.

 

[5030]

I think we're talking about defragging the old spinning disk hard drives, not SSD. I don't have any windows machines with SSD. I have one with a couple TB hard drives.

Mossy, you are in the dark ages bub...

 

[drssg]

2. When the Services window opens, scroll down to the Windows Update entry. Right-click this and choose Properties.
3. Select Disabled from the Startup type drop-down menu, then click Stop in the Service status section below. Click OK or Apply to disable automatic Windows updates.
____________________

I do a version of that several times a day with Windows 11. It automatically changes from Disabled to Delayed and runs anyway

Problem is windows updates take 99.9% or more of my network bandwidth, and kils it almost constantly.

I noticed similar behavior. I never used the approach described above, but I had a license for the Professional version of Windows, which enabled me to create a policy to only run updates manually.

That worked fine until I got a new machine that had Window 11. It ignored the policy and automatically installed updates.

 

[MossRoad]

Mossy, you are in the dark ages bub...