What happened here to my tire?

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I've you ever lost the bead on a tire in the middle of nowhere without a air compressor ?

When I pushed my tractor's right front tire bead off, initially I briefly tried pulling the bolts off to take the tire up to my shop to deal with it up there, because my crappy tire inflator at the time (no proper air compressor) was up there and there's no power plug near where the tractor was. I forget what the problem was with getting the bolts off, they may've been torqued on too hard for the wrench I had available at the time

we (my son & I) ended up using the ratchet strap idea plus a bicycle air pump. pumping took a while but it worked.
[I have a battery powered inflator now; working on the air compressor]

 

[Rockbadchild]

When I pushed my tractor's right front tire bead off, initially I briefly tried pulling the bolts off to take the tire up to my shop to deal with it up there, because my crappy tire inflator at the time (no proper air compressor) was up there and there's no power plug near where the tractor was. I forget what the problem was with getting the bolts off, they may've been torqued on too hard for the wrench I had available at the time

we (my son & I) ended up using the ratchet strap idea plus a bicycle air pump. pumping took a while but it worked.
[I have a battery powered inflator now; working on the air compressor]

A bicycle pump ehn that must've been frustrating...

All I am saying is I have been caught in a pickle at the other end of my proprety or in a back road somewhere loosing the bead of a tire and there is no air compressor around or no ratchet straps and I can't get it but I have bug spray (because living where I live I always do) I am not stranded and 2 minute later and I will be back in business ... I have done the ratchet strap and the bicycle tube trick as well in the shop as well. I am not suggesting anyone should do it every time you need to seal a beads but in some cases doing it can save you lots of time and a big headache, for me it has been the difference between spending the night out or driving on a flat vs spaying some bugs spray and lighting it up.... I pretty easy choice if you ask me but hey its a free country drive on that flat if you wish too.

 

[Threepoint]

I, too, always thought of the starter-fluid method as being in the category of “Hold my beer and watch this.” And it probably is, to a large extent. But a few weeks ago a buddy actually broke a two-inch ratchet strap trying to reseat the bead on an R4 front tire of his Kubota M6040. The tire was separated from the rim on both sides, and we were unable to get enough compression to reseat it, even with the high air flow from my big compressor and soapy water to help the seal.

So, on to Plan B, without the beer. I sprayed starter fluid along 20 inches of rim on one side. Then, standing back, lit it with a 14” butane “candle-lighter” wand. Alas, no joy. After two more tries of this, I next sprayed a one-second burst of starter fluid well up inside the tire and again along the bead before igniting. This time it worked. A loud ”POP” as the tire's bead seated fully on both sides, and we quickly inflated it.

Here’s a short YouTube video I found from a year ago of a guy using the method, but with brake cleaner rather than starter fluid, in what looks to be a fairly careful manner. If and when I need to use the trick again, I'll stick with starter fluid though.

 

[LouNY]

One problem is that many brake cleaners are not very flammable anymore, even starting fluid is getting harder to ignite and is likely to burn rather then pop an seal.

 

[MoKelly]

I, too, always thought of the starter-fluid method as being in the category of “Hold my beer and watch this.” And it probably is, to a large extent. But a few weeks ago a buddy actually broke a two-inch ratchet strap trying to reseat the bead on an R4 front tire of his Kubota M6040. The tire was separated from the rim on both sides, and we were unable to get enough compression to reseat it, even with the high air flow from my big compressor and soapy water to help the seal.

So, on to Plan B, without the beer. I sprayed starter fluid along 20 inches of rim on one side. Then, standing back, lit it with a 14” butane “candle-lighter” wand. Alas, no joy. After two more tries of this, I next sprayed a one-second burst of starter fluid well up inside the tire and again along the bead before igniting. This time it worked. A loud ”POP” as the tire's bead seated fully on both sides, and we quickly inflated it.

Here’s a short YouTube video I found from a year ago of a guy using the method, but with brake cleaner rather than starter fluid, in what looks to be a fairly careful manner. If and when I need to use the trick again, I'll stick with starter fluid though.

My goodness. That was easy!!!

 

[Rockbadchild]

One problem is that many brake cleaners are not very flammable anymore, even starting fluid is getting harder to ignite and is likely to burn rather then pop an seal.

bugs spray, hair spray, ether, and some air freshener works very well

 

[LouNY]

bugs spray, hair spray, ether, and some air freshener works very well

Some may be, many are not

 

[Rockbadchild]

Some may be, many are not

this one is inanely flammable

 

[Threepoint]

this one is inanely flammable

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Yikes! Now, that's a hazard I'd never considered when lighting a match in a restroom!

 

[Rockbadchild]

Yikes! Now, that's a hazard I'd never considered when lighting a match in a restroom!

yes... you don't want want to light up a match while spraying this stuff... I mean unless you do intend to light the place up... check the ingredient lol

 

[MoKelly]

yes... you don't want want to light up a match while spraying this stuff... I mean unless you do intend to light the place up... check the ingredient lol

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Wow! Looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Some grandma spraying nice scent for a luncheon with candles lit on the table and —- whoosh!

 

[olenjohn]

Reseat the tire with starting fluid and a lighter.

 

[Gord Baker]

My Kubota M5140 has been sitting for about a week and this afternoon I notice the tire just popped off the rim.
It was fine this morning and this afternoon off the rim. Not just flat - completely off the rim. No holes observed yet. Vandalism highly unlikely, weather had been mild (in the fifties last few days). Anyone seen this before?

 

[Gord Baker]

My Kubota M5140 has been sitting for about a week and this afternoon I notice the tire just popped off the rim.
It was fine this morning and this afternoon off the rim. Not just flat - completely off the rim. No holes observed yet. Vandalism highly unlikely, weather had been mild (in the fifties last few days). Anyone seen this before?

You should be able to pry one side off the Wheel. Feel all around inside of the tire for anything that could cause a leak. Lube both beads and wheel with liquid dish soap, remove valve core and try to inflate it using a Ratchet strap or chain with a bar to twist is. Fill Air compressor to max and lock it on valve. If first attempt fails, take it to a Shop.

 

[RammerJammer]

Taking a risk is not the same as being careless.

Some of you may be old enough to remember when BBs came in cardboard tubes. M80s and Silver Salutes were cardboard tubes filled with gunpowder. Boys being boys, sure, we married the two: If an M80 does this and a Silver Salute does that, what will a BB tube full of the contents of several of those do? (Then, there's that whole other bonus of all of those extra fuses . . . )

So, if you've never done anything like that, you may not want to use the flammables-bead-seating method. Once I learned of it, I couldn't wait for an opportunity to try it. It worked great. An extremely satisfying experience.

POOF! Done.

Just went easy on the flammables until the air/fuel mixture was right. Using a little as possible tends to limit the downside, you see. As does positioning yourself upwind.

From my perspective, never being willing to take a risk might make for a longer life. But, being close to dying is one of the few times you really, really, really appreciate living. If you don't know that feeling, I can't explain it to you. If you do, then you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Stay lucky, guys.

 

[Gord Baker]

Presently enjoying living, have'n cheated death many times, some by my stupidity, some by others and sometimes, **** happens.

 

[AnotherBueller]

Or buy a tire cheetah

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[AnotherBueller]

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If ya know ya know

Might cost you some hair