I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped

[Fuddyduddy1952]

I wished more people would THINK! Everything can have repercussions but most people simply accept things.
A blessing my Dad (WWII Navy) and wife's Dad (Army WWII) didn't live to see this.

 

[Williy]

I have done into drive 'D' and removed some programs that didn't
belong there. When I was using windows I would get a lot of crap
and have to clean house! I dropped windows many many years ago
too many crashes, freeze ups and bugs. Tryied norton and mccafee
but they really slow down your computer and they want a fortune for
them so I switched to linuxmint its a world of difference! Everything
is free but you can donate.

willy

 

[Yander]

I once thought I would like an electric vehicle but I refuse to buy anything that someone tells me I have to own and for absolutely bogus reasons. I understand a child carseat, the seatbelt, no cell phone in hand while driving blah blah. Those are real and should be imposed. But I'm sorry, electric vehicle mandates are an absolute crock.

 

[3930dave]

I once thought I would like an electric vehicle but I refuse to buy anything that someone tells me I have to own and for absolutely bogus reasons. I understand a child carseat, the seatbelt, no cell phone in hand while driving blah blah. Those are real and should be imposed. But I'm sorry, electric vehicle mandates are an absolute crock.

It started with Compelled Fuel.....

Even back then, non-sheeple were asking "Shouldn't we be using that land to grow food ?". Now, they don't even bother to hide the attacks on the food-systems, so that question has been conclusively answered.

Now we have Compelled Transportation non-choice, along with Compelled Energy Cost Increases......

(Or... maybe things like Carbon Tax, are nothing more than desperate "advanced" Western nations sleight-of-hand moves to extract blood-from-stone, in our declining economies...... nothing more than what used to be taught as basic Math....).

Compelled Speech.......

I could go on, but have done enough Preaching to the Choir already

Rgds, D.

 

[skipples]

I fail to understand those who can't spell correctly.
What's "critcize"?

You've learned to read???

 

[skipples]

I once thought I would like an electric vehicle but I refuse to buy anything that someone tells me I have to own and for absolutely bogus reasons. I understand a child carseat, the seatbelt, no cell phone in hand while driving blah blah. Those are real and should be imposed. But I'm sorry, electric vehicle mandates are an absolute crock.

Do you like to breathe?

 

[tradosaurus]

I once thought I would like an electric vehicle but I refuse to buy anything that someone tells me I have to own and for absolutely bogus reasons. I understand a child carseat, the seatbelt, no cell phone in hand while driving blah blah. Those are real and should be imposed. But I'm sorry, electric vehicle mandates are an absolute crock.

I have two EV's. Didn't buy them because someone told me to nor did I buy for climate change religion. I bought the EV's for convenience and cost. Who wouldn't like their own fuel source at their house?

 

[cpainter]

Do you like to breathe?

I'm right with ya, brother. Let's keep those EV's in the very limited roles they fit (and by individual choice) and bring common sense back to our beloved country. After all, it WAS a free country, right???

Electric vehicles release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment than gas-powered cars: study

EVs release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment: study

nypost.com

 

[two_bit_score]

I'm right with ya, brother. Let's keep those EV's in the very limited roles they fit and bring common sense back to our beloved country.

Electric vehicles release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment than gas-powered cars: study

EVs release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment: study

nypost.com

Exactly!

 

[tradosaurus]

I'm right with ya, brother. Let's keep those EV's in the very limited roles they fit (and by individual choice) and bring common sense back to our beloved country. After all, it WAS a free country, right???

Electric vehicles release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment than gas-powered cars: study

EVs release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment: study

nypost.com

From the article:

It found that brakes and tires on EVs release 1,850 times more particle pollution compared to modern tailpipes, which have “efficient” exhaust filters, bringing gas-powered vehicles’ emissions to new lows. Because EVs are on average 30% heavier, brakes and tires on the battery-powered cars wear out faster than on standard cars.

So that would mean semi trucks and diesel trucks release more particle pollution than EV's. And what does a modern tailpipe have to do with the discussion?
ICE vehicles still emit particle pollution and probably more than an EV since most EV's use one pedal braking and RARELY use the brakes.

Just another badly written hit piece on EV's

 

[two_bit_score]

The extra weight is another negative factor in EV consideration. They should all be paying a hefty tax on weight. Texas added a moderate weight tax on EV's.

Some really hate it, of course. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/...ther-states-roadblocks-ev-transition-00110125

 

[cpainter]

From the article:


So that would mean semi trucks and diesel trucks release more particle pollution than EV's. And what does a modern tailpipe have to do with the discussion?
ICE vehicles still emit particle pollution and probably more than an EV since most EV's use one pedal braking and RARELY use the brakes.

Just another badly written hit piece on EV's

Not when you compare electric trucks to ICE trucks. Nice try though. I'm just following the science like I did during the covid panic. It just puts me at odds with the political propaganda most of the time. I also have issues with the government dictating what I can and can't spend my hard-earned money on.

 

[Yander]

Do you like to breathe?

Well yes, and the reason I don't live in California. There isn't a single city in Ohio that has the stench of some of your big cities.

My son told me as soon as he got off the airplane in California he couldn't stand the smell and he almost threw up.

Stop believing all the BS about climate change.

Even the former EV and wind and solar brainwashed are starting to realize that they are not the panacea of green, and maybe they should slow their roll.

But there will always be those last few who refused to even listen to reality and just believe the narrative they're told to.

 

[Yander]

Easy to critcize that which you fail to understand.

Such an ironic statement!

 

[cpainter]

Well yes, and the reason I don't live in California. There isn't a single city in Ohio that has the stench of some of your big cities.

My son told me as soon as he got off the airplane in California he couldn't stand the smell and he almost threw up.

Stop believing all the BS about climate change.

Even the former EV and wind and solar brainwashed are starting to realize that they are not the panacea of green, and maybe they should slow their roll.

But there will always be those last few who refused to even listen to reality and just believe the narrative they're told to.

Did you hear that??? It sounded like a microphone hitting the floor...

 

[tradosaurus]

Not when you compare electric trucks to ICE trucks. Nice try though. I'm just following the science like I did during the covid panic. It just puts me at odds with the political propaganda most of the time. I also have issues with the government dictating what I can and can't spend my hard-earned money on.

You didn't get the memo that one pedal driving reduces the use of brakes significantly. So what you got now chief?

I assure you that my F250 diesel is heavier than my Y and using bigger brakes more often.

And I didn't buy into the scam-demic either and followed logic and true science.

I didn't know the government is dictation that you have to buy an EV? But using a strawman argument to prove a point won't work. Nice try though.

 

[tradosaurus]

The extra weight is another negative factor in EV consideration. They should all be paying a hefty tax on weight. Texas added a moderate weight tax on EV's.

Some really hate it, of course. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/...ther-states-roadblocks-ev-transition-00110125

You mean the EV penalty fee? I wrote my Texas state representative in vain saying that I wasn't against a fair road tax but an arbitrary $200/year was unfair. It should be based on mileage driven in a year and can be assessed when registration is due.

 

[two_bit_score]

I didn't know the government is dictation that you have to buy an EV? But using a strawman argument to prove a point won't work. Nice try though.

^^^^^ This is the real strawman argument. ^^^^^^

 

[cpainter]

You didn't get the memo that one pedal driving reduces the use of brakes significantly. So what you got now chief?

I assure you that my F250 diesel is heavier than my Y and using bigger brakes more often.

And I didn't buy into the scam-demic either and followed logic and true science.

I didn't know the government is dictation that you have to buy an EV? But using a strawman argument to prove a point won't work. Nice try though.

Oh, I forgot how the brakes component is 98% of the emissions argument and how the F250 and the Y are practically the same vehicle if you ignore the method of propulsion. I stand corrected. As for the "dictation":

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-electric-vehicle-mandate-gas-powered-cars-2032-epa-c2a72414

 

[two_bit_score]

You mean the EV penalty fee? I wrote my Texas state representative in vain saying that I wasn't against a fair road tax but an arbitrary $200/year was unfair. It should be based on mileage driven in a year and can be assessed when registration is due.

You really do want the goverment to monitor you more. I am sure you didn't actually listen to any of the House floor debate on that bill or you would know better.