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   / An EV??????` #102  
What is the cost of installing a new 200A service (or larger)?

I'm seeing estimates of $1000 to $2000 or so.

That is just a drop in the bucket for the price of a new car, and if you're spending $50 to $100 for fuel a day, then it would pay for itself in no time.
If I'm spending 50-100 $/day for fuel then an EV doesn't have the range I need. (15-30 gallons of fuel at 24mpg)
 
   / An EV??????` #103  
If I'm spending 50-100 $/day for fuel then an EV doesn't have the range I need. (15-30 gallons of fuel at 24mpg)
24 x 15 gallons = 360 miles.
24 x 30 gallons = 720 miles.

I can't get 30 gallons for less than $100 here. And very few vehicles that have 30 gallon tanks get 24 mpg.

For that kind of range, perhaps two mid day stops for gas, or one stop for supercharging an EV, and a pretty robust charging at night.

Everything depends on the car, the actual use, and the actual miles.
 
   / An EV??????` #104  
24 x 15 gallons = 360 miles.
24 x 30 gallons = 720 miles.

I can't get 30 gallons for less than $100 here. And very few vehicles that have 30 gallon tanks get 24 mpg.

For that kind of range, perhaps two mid day stops for gas, or one stop for supercharging an EV, and a pretty robust charging at night.

Everything depends on the car, the actual use, and the actual miles.
How long is your "Supercharge" going to take? I can fill my tank in <10 minutes, including time to pull off the road. With an EV I also would need to account for time to find a charger.
I have a full tank when I get home, sans the gallon I burned after filling. If an emergency comes up I don't want to wait for the car to charge.
 
   / An EV??????` #105  
My electrician knowledge is limited but I have a friend that has worked for a electrical utility for the past 25 years. He told me that in his subdivision where he lives if a 1/3 of the folks that live there were to try and charge an EV around the same time the grid would not handle the load. He’s not an EV hater either.
 
   / An EV??????` #106  
He’s not an EV hater either
I'm not, either. I am realistic, however. Despite the hype, they simply won't work for most people in rural areas. I would consider a hybrid in the right configuration, as a second vehicle.
When Ford came out with the Maverick I found the base model to be quite appealing. Reasonably priced and relatively simple. Apparently a lot of other people did also as they were sold out soon after Ford started taking orders each year. Rather than boosting production, Ford increased the price by 30%.
 
   / An EV??????` #107  
I mentioned that my friend was not an EV hater to emphasize that him saying the grid won’t handle a lot of folks charging their EV’s around the same time was coming from a person that knows the what the grid will handle and not just saying that due to hating on EV’s.
 
   / An EV??????` #108  
I will never own one but if folks want one then have it. I think we are decades away from EV’s being common place and decades away from an infrastructure that can handle it.
 
   / An EV??????` #109  
What is the cost of installing a new 200A service (or larger)?

I'm seeing estimates of $1000 to $2000 or so.

That is just a drop in the bucket for the price of a new car, and if you're spending $50 to $100 for fuel a day, then it would pay for itself in no time.
This demonstrates why EV users lose credibility. How many people use $50-100 of gas a day?

15,000 miles a year at 20 mpg is 750 gallons. Call it 2 gallons a day. At $4/gal, that is $8/day. My F150 is averaging 20.8 mpg.
 
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This demonstrates why EV users lose credibility. How many people use $50-100 of gas a day?

15,000 miles a year at 20 mpg is 750 gallons. Call it 2 gallons a day. At $4/gal, that is $8/day. My F150 is averaging 20.8 mpg.

And none of the “holier than thou” gang also understand it’ll cost trillions to upgrade the electrical grid and build more power plants

That means even higher taxes, on top of the taxpayer money already being confiscated from us so we can help EV buyers buy their EV’s.

It’s a religion at this point.
 
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