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   / An EV??????` #61  
Fuel taxes have been a relatively fair way to fund road maintenance. Heavier vehicles cause more damage and use more fuel. a person that drive 8k miles a year pays less than someone driving 25k. A fair tax for EVs is needed as they should fund the roads, but what is fair?

Is charging an EV user who puts on 8k a year $200 fair if another EV user who does 25k miles pays the same?

I do not see weight as an equitable way. Does a 3500 lb vehicle that is used for 25k miles do 1/2 the damage of a 7000 lb vehicle used for 8k mikes?

PA road taxes to fix roads and pay the Pennsylvania State Police comes from taxes on gas.
EV owners are not contributing.
 
   / An EV??????` #63  
I hear what everyone is saying but what gets me in a city of huge deficits with city streets on 120 year paving schedules is the closing of entire traffic Lanes on city streets because they are now reserved for bikes and in my many years not once have I ever seen a single bike.

They must also have a huge paint budget to paint all the bike lanes?

Just how much tax of any kind do bike operators pay to use bike lanes?

We no longer even license them.
 
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This is funny. The company I work for provides our vehicles and they offered the Tesla Model 3 up for us this past year, since I was due for a new car I went and test drove one and they are really cool cars so I decided to order one, until the fleet company called me and listed all the requirements and suggestions for owning an EV. For one I dont have the 250 amp service to my house required by my fleet company for charging, then they also suggested I do not park it in my garage due to risk of fire. Couple that with the range considerations I wisely chose to go another route with a Honda CRV Hybrid and man am I glad I did. Today for example, I put 500+ miles on my CRV and didn't have to stop for gas once. Had I had the Tesla I would have had to find a supercharger somewhere in the middle of the no-where I was today (which dont exist) just to get home. I know the fire thing comes up a lot, and of course ICE vehicles catch fire more than EV's but Id wager that is simply because there are many many times more ICE cars on the road the EV. Ive seen an EV fire, its no joke and the fire crew could not put it out, they had to block off a sizable radius around the car which included shutting down the highway for hours to let the thing burn out. Then the highway was damaged so badly that it was only one lane for weeks. That's enough for me, I know they are great for those that can use them within their limits but for me it will be a long time before they can do what I need them to do.
 
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There has been talk of inplementing a mileage fee. One suggestion is to put a GPS in every vehicle.
My insurance company wanted to put a GPS in my truck to prove I was no longer driving to Dallas for work and was really working from home. I said no thanks. My miles driving now are half what thy were when I had to be in the office. Many people that don't live right around the corner from work or grocery stores will not be able to afford to pay a per mile tax or fee. The wealthy won't care. It's just like all those single toll lanes to bypass traffic they build that most of us can't afford to pay for. If they do start charging me by the mile, the roads out here that they neglect better get fixed. I'd bet they won't fix any of the roads, but we will pay more.
 
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JurassicJet you always open your mouth​

before you speak?? Are you blind?? You did not see
all the question marks???

No story attached to this it was a snap shot


willy
 
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This is funny. The company I work for provides our vehicles and they offered the Tesla Model 3 up for us this past year, since I was due for a new car I went and test drove one and they are really cool cars so I decided to order one, until the fleet company called me and listed all the requirements and suggestions for owning an EV. For one I dont have the 250 amp service to my house required by my fleet company for charging, then they also suggested I do not park it in my garage due to risk of fire. Couple that with the range considerations I wisely chose to go another route with a Honda CRV Hybrid and man am I glad I did. Today for example, I put 500+ miles on my CRV and didn't have to stop for gas once. Had I had the Tesla I would have had to find a supercharger somewhere in the middle of the no-where I was today (which dont exist) just to get home. I know the fire thing comes up a lot, and of course ICE vehicles catch fire more than EV's but Id wager that is simply because there are many many times more ICE cars on the road the EV. Ive seen an EV fire, its no joke and the fire crew could not put it out, they had to block off a sizable radius around the car which included shutting down the highway for hours to let the thing burn out. Then the highway was damaged so badly that it was only one lane for weeks. That's enough for me, I know they are great for those that can use them within their limits but for me it will be a long time before they can do what I need them to do.

Both of those concerns are non-issues. I installed a 240 volt charger for my Tesla Y for about $600 including the charger at my house. The fire risk is completely overblown. I'm suspecting the fire issue is because of bad wiring and poor installation.
 
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Did you guys see the Pothole Pete interview? I will not comment as there are too many people on this forum who report anything political that does not fit their beliefs. Draw your own conclusions.
 
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