How best to dam a creek?????

[Hay Dude]

Might have to do a bog turtles study. Probably only take a year.

 

[garry1p]

1st look up building a core ditch for a pond dam.
Many years ago I paid some one to build a core ditch, he built the core ditch but did not do it correctly and it soon leaked slowly.
Within a year I had fast leaking dam and no pond once it started leaking it was only a matter of time before the center of the dam completely washed away.

 

[jyoutz]

1st look up building a core ditch for a pond dam.
Many years ago I paid some one to build a core ditch, he built the core ditch but did not do it correctly and it soon leaked slowly.
Within a year I had fast leaking dam and no pond once it started leaking it was only a matter of time before the center of the dam completely washed away.

The key thing is people design these small pond dams for the normal flow of the small stream. Stormflow and snow melt are what normally take out those small pond dams. Beavers do it better

 

[Hay Dude]

Get the gubmit involved and maybe you’ll live to see your dam/pond built, but I kinda doubt it.

 

[jyoutz]

N

Get the gubmit involved and maybe you’ll live to see your dam/pond built, but I kinda doubt it.

NRCS has actual professional hydrologists who know how to calculate and design for normal and extreme storm flow. But we know that you don’t respect professionally educated people so your comment is expected and not helpful.

 

[Hay Dude]

N

NRCS has actual professional hydrologists who know how to calculate and design for normal and extreme storm flow. But we know that you don’t respect professionally educated people so your comment is expected and not helpful.

The taxpayer funded salaries & pensions of those unnecessary positions provide them with enough paid vacation time that the poor applicant for a gubmit study might die of old age before he gets an answer, after he submits his payment, up front of course.
Better off to avoid the gubmit at all cost. Last thing you want is those jackoffs tromping around on your property…..
“we are from the gubmit, we are here to help”

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

The taxpayer funded salaries & pensions of those unnecessary positions provide them with enough paid vacation time that the poor applicant for a gubmit study might die of old age before he gets an answer, after he submits his payment, up front of course.
Better off to avoid the gubmit at all cost. Last thing you want is those jackoffs tromping around on your property…..
“we are from the gubmit, we are here to help”

^^^100%^^^
What my farmer neighbors/friends say. A new Dentist neighbor got "free" 2 wells drilled and
High Tensile fence on their place for horses. Free-government provided. Now it's the government's farm.

 

[MMC]

I respect the opinions and experiences of those on this site. That's why I enjoy (mostly reading) these posts.

I will agree that we are over regulated and that's another discussion. But the Federal Ag folks in my county have always been most helpful to me over the decades. The NCRS (sorry, I'm older so I used the SCS name) has always sent expert folks to help with springs and ponds (design, that is). And...the resultant water from those designs are running after years of use.

No one says you have to use their help, but as a taxpayer, their services belong to you. Why not use them? No charges I know about. If you don't like the answers provided, then do it like you want...

 

[jyoutz]

^^^100%^^^
What my farmer neighbors/friends say. A new Dentist neighbor got "free" 2 wells drilled and
High Tensile fence on their place for horses. Free-government provided. Now it's the government's farm.

NRCS isn’t a regulatory agency. They implement USDA’s landowner assistance programs. They have no enforcement authority and don’t work with state agencies that do. Yes they do work with the Farm Services Agency to give away a lot of free money to rural landowners for farm and ranch improvements and land conservation. I’m sure that we have members of this forum who are beneficiaries. I am one. I received funds 15 years ago for grassland improvement projects. All of these programs are part of the USDA Farm bill that is periodically reauthorized by Congress. It’s one of the few things that Congress does that always receives bipartisan support.

By the way you have a beautiful property and a nice spring fed stream. In my part of the country that small pond (once constructed) would be stocked with trout.

Edit: MMC - we must have posted at the same time, saying the same things in different ways.

 

[MMC]

NRCS isn’t a regulatory agency. They implement USDA’s landowner assistance programs. They have no enforcement authority and don’t work with state agencies that do. Yes they do work with the Farm Services Agency to give away a lot of free money to rural landowners for farm and ranch improvements and land conservation. I’m sure that we have members of this forum who are beneficiaries. I am one. I received funds 15 years ago for grassland improvement projects. All of these programs are part of the USDA Farm bill that is periodically reauthorized by Congress. It’s one of the few things that Congress does that always receives bipartisan support.

By the way you have a beautiful property and a nice spring fed stream. In my part of the country that small pond (once constructed) would be stocked with trout.

Edit: MMC - we must have posted at the same time, saying the same things in different ways.

We did - you said it better, though. And though there are many legitimate criticisms of government, many forget that agricultural programs serve the national interest first.